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#291 Re: Guns N' Roses » What GN'R members thought about CD » 490 weeks ago
Was reading wikipedia and saw this:
Duff McKagan praised the album, saying that "Axl sounds amazing" and "I think Axl's finally made the record he always wanted to".
Slash reacted positively to the title track, stating "That sounds cool. It's good to hear Axl's voice again, y'know?" When the album was released, Slash responded by saying "It's a really good record. It's very different from what the original Guns N' Roses sounded like, but it's a great statement by Axl... It's a record that the original Guns N' Roses could never possibly make. And at the same time it just shows you how brilliant Axl is." In a later interview, Slash stated the album was "exactly what I thought it would sound like," with many synthesizers and digital augmentations.
Izzy Stradlin, soon after the album was released, said "I have listened to some tracks off the record and I enjoyed them" and "I like what I've heard."
Steven Adler said he "didn't like the album, not one bit."
Gilby Clarke stated "I think it's a really good record – I honestly do. I think it's a great record... Knowing what I know what direction he wanted to take the band, I think he hit the nail on the head; I think he did a great job"
Matt Sorum called the album a 'toe-tapper'.
Early Guns N' Roses guitarist Tracii Guns said he thought the album was "over-indulgent, sterile and not that exciting."
Duff and Slash are laying it on a little thick there. I wonder if statements like that to the press are what sowed the first seeds for this reunion. We know being badmouthed in the press was one of the things Axl resented Slash the most for. Later someone said the only way Slash would be forgiven was if he admitted what he had done in Axl's eyes and apologized for everything.
Now probably Slash didn't do exactly that and won't, but talking up Axl in the press could have been a strategy that has mellowed the relationship between them.
Makes me thing of this fake video of Slash mocking nuGNR live performances :
I just don't think you'll ever see something like that from them for real
#292 Re: The Garden » 2016 Presidential Election Thread » 490 weeks ago
So what does Bernie believe in other than free stuff? Some people I really like seem to respect him, so someone that knows something about Bernie fill me in.
He wants to reduce the risk of global economic recessions (like we had in 2008) due to high risk trading by huge banks that don't separate consumer products from high risk investment portfolios; he wants to do this by re-introducing tighter regulations, as well as breaking up the big banks into consumer and investment banks.
He wants to reduce the cost of healthcare by introducing a single payer healthcare system, a system which across the globe proves that when implemented properly (i.e. not like Obama-care) leads to lower healthcare costs for everyone.
He wants to bring back more power the the electorate by taking money, lobbying and corruption out of politics
He wants to bring more and better paying manufacturing jobs back to the US by doing away with foreign trade agreements, ensuring that US manufactured goods can effectively compete with goods manufactured in low-wage countries.
He wants to increase US' competitiveness in higher educated professions by making public college tuition free.
He wants to increase the number of jobs in construction, building, etc... by fixing America's crumbling infrastructure.
He wants to redistribute some of the wealth in the US from the top 1% to the middle class and richest corporations by closing tax loopholes and reducing corporate subsidies on the one hand; by partially lifting the cap on taxable income and raising capital gains taxing to the level of income taxes for the rich (to counteract the "having money makes more free money" syndrome). Although to MisterID's point it's not like he is against rich people or the more affluent, he simply wants them to cary their proportionate share of the burden.
All of the above are policies that when implemented would have a positive impact for the broader American middle-class. Based on polling for each of these individual policies, the US population is overwhelmingly supportive of Bernie's economic platform (with most policies easily scoring favorability ratings of more than 65%). Whatever you do, don't believe the bullshit claims that he's going to tax the middle-class up to 90%. The highest income tax bracket in his tax plan is 54.2% on all yearly income above $10.000.000. Everything up to (roughly) $200.000 is subject to a relatively moderate 30.2%.
There is probably more room for debate on his social and ethical policies. His morales and ethics are (like all democrats) very liberal, being pro-choice, pro-gay marriage, etc... Although he does seem to favor gun ownership more than any other democrat. He is very much in favor of personal freedom and liberties, as well as freedom of speech and privacy. His moral compass seems to be derived from a deep feeling of empathy for his fellow people, instead of being a moral code derived from a specific religion or religious denomination.
#293 Re: The Garden » 2016 Presidential Election Thread » 490 weeks ago
buzzsaw wrote:So what does Bernie believe in other than free stuff? Some people I really like seem to respect him, so someone that knows something about Bernie fill me in.
He wants trade reform, an end to unfair trade, regulating Wall Street, that's a big thing with him, and capping medical and pharmecutical costs. He wants free college which will never happen, free healthcare, another thing we'll never see. This means higher taxation on the wealthy and middle class. I understand what he's saying, it isn't about not wanting to have a wealthy class, it's that the top 1% pay little to no taxes at all compared to the working-middle class who are left holding the bag, but he's going about it wrong, but I also suspect he knows it's unrealistic.
Mostly true, but the higher taxation thing is unfair. He has clearly stated that middle class families will end up saving thousands of dollars on a yearly basis with his plan for a single payer healthcare system. Instead of paying to insurance companies, you'll pay a fraction of that in additional income taxes (2.2%), your employer will pay an extra 6.8% in payroll tax. Both of these numbers will replace current group health insurance costs and will effectively be lower than what both employers and employees are paying today. So yes, it's a small tax increase on the middle class, but at the end of the month you'll still have more money in pocket.
Insurance is a perfect example of a segment that benefits from economies of scale, a non-profit single-payer healthcare system will always be cheaper to run (and thus cheaper for the general public to use) than a for-profit fragmented private insurance based system.
If you're worried about the government not being able to run healthcare efficiently, then fix the fucking government by voting for people who actually want to fix the fucking government, don't vote for so-called self proclaimed moderates that only want to maintain the status quo. Don't just throw your hands in the air claiming that 'this will never work in America'. If the Canadians can do it, why wouldn't the Americans be able to?
I agree with you that Bernie must realize that it is going to be challenging for him to push through his proposals, but you don't start by taking a moderate position before you negotiate. And I do think it's better to be more ambitious at the start, to not make concessions before the negotiations have even started. A watered down ambitious Bernie plan is still miles better than a pure deferential Hillary plan.
#294 Re: The Garden » 2016 Presidential Election Thread » 490 weeks ago
The free market and capitalism made the US the most powerful economy the world has ever seen. Socialist ideas bankrupt Greece. The more we act like Greece the better the odds we fail like them.
The rest of your post is thoughtful enough, although I don't agree with some of the statements I would with others. This here though, is plain nonsense. Greece failed because of corruption within the government, not because of an ideology. Greece failed because of pandering by the government to special interest groups, which is exactly the same reason why America pushed the world into a deep recession in 2008. No 'system' is going to hold up under a deeply corrupt government, from communism over socialism to capitalism and anything in between.
If we are going to give free health care use the European model. Obama Care is horrible. I now pay over $300 per month for an individual policy and I am very healthy. People can't afford this shit.
Agreed, and that is exactly what Bernie is proposing.
US colleges have been fucking over students for a while, but I don't trust the government to give us just as good of a product for free. Won't work. And we can't just tax our way out of everything.
It's unlikely that public colleges will ever be able to compete with private ivy league style schools. When socialist countries talk about helping people out, it is by providing the bare minimum, the basics. A public college education beats the hell out of no higher education, and wouldn't be a drop in the bucket that is the overall budget.
We need to LOWER taxes on the middle class
Although I'm all in favor of lowering income taxes, what you actually NEED is to increase the buying power, which can be achieved by other means as well. Such as abolishing student debt and super-expensive private healthcare.
and corporations and try to get companies back in the US and out of Mexico and China.
That's a matter of trade policies, not taxation.
I think Wall Street is so fucking corrupt and when you can bet on people to fail it creates a cluster fuck of motives and incentives. Shorts, calls, etc can't be good. A lot of people made BILLIONS betting on the housing market to fail. Watch the Big Short. It seems a little unethical to me. Also the market was way up and now it's back down again. It is not a good reflection of the actual market.
I agree with all of this, so we both seem to be saying we need more regulation on Wall Street. As long as the big banks can buy out politicians, nothing will change though. Sounds like you need to vote for Bernie...
#295 Re: The Garden » 2016 Presidential Election Thread » 490 weeks ago
Not everyone needs their own home or free cell phone or free college tuition. It is that mentality that creates this entitlement nanny state that will hurt us for decades to come.
No, what ends up hurting the US is the mentality that everyone who ends up down in the dumps at one point in their lives for whatever reason is an inferior human being that isn't properly contributing back to the economy and therefore should not be given any help or assistance. The country is wasting huge amounts of potential by not providing free college tuition, by ensuring that if you happen to be born and raised in a poor community you goddamn stay there, regardless of your capabilities. While if you happen to be born and raised in a rich environment, you get all the chances you need as long as you can pay for it. And if you really think that
Besides the fact that it is ethically disgusting, it's just plain economically stupid. Free college tuition at roughly $60B is dirt fucking cheap (only 1.6% of the yearly budget), and the returns on that investment are huge with the negative impact of student loans driving consumption up, the intellectual capital build-up, attracting the brightest foreign minds, ...
OFCOURSE there need to be rules and limitations, in even the most socialist European countries you don't get the fuck around on the government's dime, but everyone GETS AT LEAST ONE FUCKING CHANCE to prove what they can contribute to the economy and brain trust, regardless of their background.
You really, really have to stop debating in conservative echo chambers, there's a whole world of countries out there that PROVES that free or near-free college eduction is EASILY affordable and, more than that, economically worthwhile. I don't see a single argument in this thread that supports this whole 'the sky is going to fall if we get nationalized healthcare/free college tuition/better wall street regulations/...' rhetoric.
Can someone explain to me why all those things work in Canada, the UK, Germany, Scandinavia, the Benelux, France, Australia, New Zealand, ... but it wouldn't work in the US?
#296 Re: The Garden » 2016 Presidential Election Thread » 490 weeks ago
I'd also argue that MOST Americans, overwhelmingly, are cash poor. If the stipulation (even today) was that a home buyer must have six months of income in the bank, little to no credit card debt, and zero delinquencies, then nearly everybody would be renting. I also find that when people make more money, they're still broke, they just have nicer shit. Such is the American mindset, conservative or liberal, makes no difference.
This! And the only way to change this is through regulation, you can't expect the free market to protect the less informed.
#297 Re: The Garden » 2016 Presidential Election Thread » 490 weeks ago
It's just too silly. It's 50/50 each time you flip the coin, it doesn't lower you odds just because you won the previous time.
No, it doesn't. But the odds of winning all 6 are very small. Hillary got extremely lucky, she could just as well have had to concede to Bernie if she'd lost even two out of the six coin tosses.
#298 Re: The Garden » 2016 Presidential Election Thread » 490 weeks ago
What is the benefit of winning 6/7 inconsequential in the long run coin tosses? If they bought of the Bernie reps, media and people filming things with their cellphones you should be impressed by the operation than worried
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I hate these Alex Jones-style nutjob conspiracy theories as much as the next guy, but the result of the coin tosses are not inconsequential, they are the difference between a narrow victory and a narrow loss. PR-wise, that's a world of difference. It is very clear that the Hillary reps did every small thing they could to skew the results in her favor, but that's par for the course in an asinine, old-fashioned voting system like a caucus. It's nothing illegal, but it is plain retarded.
#299 Re: The Garden » 2016 Presidential Election Thread » 490 weeks ago
Bernie isn't getting any landslides anywhere. Those coin tosses tell us all we need to know about which direction the dem primary season is going.
I don't like Sanders but I'm actually rooting for the guy now. he's going to have to climb Mt Everest with Rosie O Donnell on his back to win the nomination and even if he reached the summit, would probably get kicked over the cliff while Hilary plants the flag.
I think you're right wherever the votes are close, but if the difference is stark enough, the DNC won't risk fudging the results. Also, it's much harder to cheat in states where they hold primaries instead of caucuses, so I'm pretty sure Bernie will see some significant successes. I predict Sanders will win NH by a wide margin (20-ish points, if not more).
#300 Re: The Garden » 2016 Presidential Election Thread » 491 weeks ago
I think the real story here is how Trump's numbers are so far off from his polling averages. Makes me think that either (1) instead of a silent majority, Trump voters are more of a vocal minority than people are ready to accept (although admittedly, his numbers are probably too high to use the term 'minority') or (2) his voters just don't care enough to show up. If someone is really as angry with the establishment as is being said about Trump voters, those two to four hours needed to participate in a caucus shouldn't be a problem. Trump supporters should be worried and probably take more responsibility and go out and actually fucking vote if they want him to stand a chance. If this discrepancy repeats itself in the upcoming states, he's a goner.
On the Democrats' side, Bernie basically matched or slightly beat his poll numbers. It's going to be tough, but a landslide victory in NH and a strong showing in SC might give Bernie's candidacy the wings that it needs to sway the southern states in his favor. And now that O'Malley is out, he'll be picking up some of those anti-Hillary votes as well.
I'm hoping Bernie is going to take it, but he might have needed a bigger upset in Iowa.