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#311 Re: Guns N' Roses » I will post a leak » 315 weeks ago
This is a great album and it would have been a great release in 1999
I just always wonder if Axl had the right people around him at the time. Axl had to carry GN'R on his own, and that is a hard thing. All the original members leaving probably would have filled him with self doubt and left him vulnerable, which is a shame. I know the band will not like these tracks coming out, but in a way, for the fans, if you add the tracks to the news of the day, it gives more insight into the making of CD, and how it became almost an obsession for Axl to just keep adding to the tracks to the point where they became almost cluttered.
#312 Re: Guns N' Roses » Timeline of the recording sessions for the new leaks » 319 weeks ago
And Seven was possibly undeveloped, so a newer song
#313 Re: Guns N' Roses » Timeline of the recording sessions for the new leaks » 319 weeks ago
Of Soul Monster
"I think it's our most Black Sabbath moment. Sang it on a Christmas eve. Imo the meanest section of anything I've sung to date. Which having said that I'm sure when it's heard others may disagree but we felt it was a Christmas card of unadulterated venom so to speak. I felt a lot better afterward." - Axl
#314 Re: Guns N' Roses » Timeline of the recording sessions for the new leaks » 319 weeks ago
October 2002 for marco
#315 Re: Guns N' Roses » Timeline of the recording sessions for the new leaks » 319 weeks ago
Legendary Italian film composer Marco Beltrami ("Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines", "Resident Evil", "Scream", "Blade 2") recently spoke to IGN.com about his work on the much-anticipated new GUNS N' ROSES album, "Chinese Democracy".
"That was sort of just work for hire," Beltrami explained. "I guess they'd heard some of my orchestral music of mine. I met with Axl [Rose] and he played me these songs, asked me my ideas about them, and I told him what I thought they needed. They gave me four songs to orchestrate. A couple of them I did more than orchestrating, I actually wrote some melodies and stuff. It was a fun project. I really enjoyed it. The music was eclectic and at the time that I was doing it there were no lyrics on the songs that I was working on. People ask me about the album and I really have no idea about the release. I thought it was coming out last September. I'm the wrong person to ask about that.
When asked if he was ever in the studio with the members of GUNS N' ROSES or if the band came to him with the finished tracks, Beltrami said, "No, they had finished tracks. On one song I actually wrote a guitar part, but they pretty much had the band tracks down and then I added orchestral stuff on top of it. . . [I worked on] A song called 'Seven', which is the one that I did the most work on, I actually did some writing on. There was one called 'Thyme', one called 'The General', one called 'Leave Me Alone'."
Regarding he experience of working with a rock band and whether he has any future plans to work with other groups, Beltrami said, "I enjoyed it quite a bit. It was different than doing film music, but it was a lot of fun. I would probably do it again. It would probably be more fun at some point, to do it as a more collaborative affair, starting more from scratch, working and writing stuff [together]. But it was definitely fun."
From July 2003
#316 Re: Guns N' Roses » Timeline of the recording sessions for the new leaks » 319 weeks ago
"What surprised me is that they supposedly had Brain re-do my drums note for note." (Josh Freese, Podocast, 04/13)
"Josh Freese was the drummer before and he had basically played drums on about 30 songs and when he had left Axl really liked my 'feel', so he was like 'Well, I really liked what Josh played, but I want your 'feel'." (Brain, EQTV, 10/08)
#317 Re: Guns N' Roses » Timeline of the recording sessions for the new leaks » 319 weeks ago
State of Grace could be about the movie. SCOM was on the soundtrack, and it is highly regarded by people in music
#318 Re: Guns N' Roses » Timeline of the recording sessions for the new leaks » 319 weeks ago
Josh said when he left there was 20ish songs with vocals and 20ish without. Brain said he re-recorded 30ish tracks. In 2006, there were 30, low 30s amount of tracks with vocals, and other without, from talks with Merck. We can throw in Ides of March as an instrumental from the 2000s, and we know other tracks were added later that sourced from other members. It also looks as though Prom Violence and 3 Dollar Pyramid were tracks with extra work. Just thinking out loud
#319 Re: Guns N' Roses » Timeline of the recording sessions for the new leaks » 319 weeks ago
UPDATED 3:39 Eastern...this is everything visually confirmed but not heard so far. Will update again if I'm able.
Inspired by the work of Zombux, who documented the band's recording sessions, I started a timeline of when these new leaks were recorded.
2000
March
23
“Me & My Elvis” 5:40
“D Tune” 5:16
“Curly Shuffle” 3:43
“Oklahoma” 4:1227
“State of Grace” 4:00
“I.R.S.” 4:14
“Atlas Shrugged” (25) 4:12
“Perhaps” (19) 3:56
“Prostitute” (23) 6:10
:Catcher” (30) 5:35October
5
“Dub Suplex” (Dat #5) 3:02
“Devious Bastard” 3:26
“Dummy” 6:2412
“T.W.A.T. (#10) 5:1015
“Billionaire” (Dat #2) 1:3123 “The Blues” (#6) 4:44
November
5
“Madagascar” (Drum adds) 5:37
“Chinese Democracy” (Version 1) 3:127
“Circus Maximus” 4:30
“As It Began” (Version 1) 3:51
“Riad” (Version 1) 3:33
“Silkworms” (Version 1) 3:338
“Nothing” (Version 1) 3:50
“Thyme” (P.R.L.) 1:55
“Hardschool” 3:582001
April
3
“Inside Out”
“3 Dollar Pyramid”
“Tommy Demo #1”
“Tommy Demo #2”June
27
“Madagascar”:
Drums up (Version Tom Likes)
Drums up Instrumental
Drums down 3 dB
Drums down 3 dB Instrumental
Old Josh Drums
Original Brain Drums“Chinese Democracy:
Old Josh Drums
New Brain Drums“The Blues”:
Old Josh Drums
New Brain Drums“Rhiad”:
Old Josh Drums
New Brain DrumsJuly
2
Rough Mixes of New Brain Drum Takes:
With vocals
Instrumental13
New Brain Drum Takes:
Vocal at Regular Level
Vocal Down 1 dB
Instrumental19
New Brain Drum Remixes with Axl:
“Rhiad”
“Rhiad” (Ed’d Toms)
“Prostitute”
“The Blues”August
20
New Brain Drums:
Drums at Regular Level
Drums up 1.5 dB
Drums down 1.5 dB27
Brain Drums Remix with Snare Sample from “Silkworms”:
Ambience Down, Mono Room Off
Ambience Down with Mono Room
Ambience at Original Level
Snare Sample during Outro Only
First Half with Old Snares, Second Half with Snare Sample OnlySeptember
6
New Brain Drum Takes (3rd Time):
Drums and Guitars at Regular Level
Drums up 1 dB
Drums up 2 dB
Guitars up 2.5 dB, Drums at Regular Level
Guitars up 1 dB
Guitars up 0.7 dB
Instrumental with Drums and Guitar at Regular LevelNovember
13
Straight Analog Downloads (These Are Not Final)“Prom Violence”:
Take 2
Take 3“Three Dollar Pyramid”:
Take 2
Take 4Undated:
“The Blues” (New Brain Drum Takes):
Vocal at Regular Level
Vocal Down 1 Db
Instrumental
Thanks It'll be interesting comparing what is known and written historically, to the recordings
#320 Re: Guns N' Roses » anyone hear the atlas clip leak » 319 weeks ago
sp1at wrote:So, I am presuming these were the CD's given to Tom Zutaut Feb/Mar 2001. It will be interesting to see all the dates on all the CDs
no, some of the CDs already have dates like June to August 2001. so these must be of later date, or were stacked up gradually during Zutaut's time with the band (he was let go in November 2001 after the Village mixes were finished in October 2001 - if I get it correctly)
Yeah, I saw Tom likes, or something like that on one of the photos. It's quite exciting then. We see Brain joining, what Bob Ezrin, then what Tom Zutaut heard, then I guess what was being worked on for the Summer of 2002 release.
Obviously, the ones with the vocals were probably looked upon for the Beavan master.
These fill in a big gap in GN'R history. Amazing.