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#321 Re: Guns N' Roses » Axl doesnt consider CD a guns n roses album anymore » 201 weeks ago

If there is new post reunion written material it will be done in the same way that they did the newly written material for UYI.

Each of them brining in ideas and sketches of songs, tapes being ferried back and forth to Axl Manor, eventually working them into complete instrumentals, Axl then labouring over them and adding his vocals for 1-2 years whilst the rest of the band got high.

It will be like that, except less getting high and instead of tapes it's sending files to each other online. They aren't jamming in a van anymore and haven't since 1985/86.


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I still don't see the issue with them reworking Axl's CD sessions vault either. If you want those CD lineup versions, getting these versions out of the way is the path towards those seeing the light of day.

#322 Re: The Garden » Taliban control of Afghanistan on the 20th Anniversary of 9/11 » 201 weeks ago

misterID wrote:

I really hate bringing Trump into this, but he wanted to pull out since 2016 and was talked out of it by generals and the intelligence community because of this very issue and the ramifications including Taiwan. He began negotiations with the Taliban per their advice to get out. The Taliban broke that agreement with what they were supposed to do, so that deal ended.

According to everything I've read, Biden was advised exactly how Trump was and didn't listen. Now he's saying he was hamstrung by Trump's deal, but the deal had already been broken, there was no deal to be tied to. And he'd already started breaking a bunch of Trump deals.

The way this is being spun is something else after four years of complaining Trump didn't listen to the experts or his Generals or intelligence agencies. There is no daylight between Trumpers and progressives. Biden admin were backlogged with civilians wanting out, so saying they *didn't* want out is a lie, and to blame them after swearing to them this wouldn't happen is pretty gross.

Everyone wanted out, it's how you get out. Btw, an American hasn't been killed there in 18 months. Thousands of Afghan military have been. Saying they didn't fight is also a lie.


*clap* *clap* *clap*

100%. 20 years of saying Afghanistan are partners and then sold them down the river, against all military and intelligence advice. All for optics.

#323 Re: Guns N' Roses » Axl doesnt consider CD a guns n roses album anymore » 201 weeks ago

elevendayempire wrote:

The thing I find kinda crazy is that of the CD tracks they're playing they've gone for some that I really didn't expect (Better, Prostitute, Madagascar) over the more obvious "traditional" sounding rock tracks (I.R.S., Street of Dreams).

Imagine him trying to sing those these days. Neither have featured since 2012.

#324 Re: The Garden » Taliban control of Afghanistan on the 20th Anniversary of 9/11 » 201 weeks ago

James wrote:

You'd think our government would have had a better exit strategy.

At this stage, I think we should have all learned from history and realised we should stop thinking that hmm


Trump screwed up the terms of the exit.

Biden screwed up the execution of the exit operation.

#325 Re: Guns N' Roses » Axl doesnt consider CD a guns n roses album anymore » 201 weeks ago

I don't get folk who go on about "I wish they wouldn't release these songs with Slash and Duff, I want the originals from 02, I don't want these versions of the songs".

Getting these versions is the hurdle that needs to be cleared if you ever EVER want to hear how these songs sounded with the CD lineup. Getting a release of this music out the door gets us 1) closer to any sort of unloading of old demos, vault boxset type release in the future 2) kills the mystique any of these songs have and reduces their trade value.

If any of this shit is out there and someone who's been sat on lets just say The General for the past decade sees an announced tracklist for an eventual album and sees their shit on there... they're going to want to get it moved quick before it becomes worth so much less. More trading of shit means songs end up in more hands and make it likelier they end up leaking.

If you ever want to one day hear Axl's CD 2 the way it was "supposed" to have been heard circa 2001-2004 then this hurdle of a new reunion album needs to be cleared.

#326 Re: The Garden » Taliban control of Afghanistan on the 20th Anniversary of 9/11 » 202 weeks ago

Randall Flagg wrote:

My point being that US media has a very predictive script and narrative to dole out when they want attention elsewhere, so expect them to focus on whatever random tragedy they can spin to deflect from Biden's catastrophic international relations.  It's what they do.  You and anyone else can have the last word, I don't want to derail this topic.

Full agreement here. And no more needed on the topic, understand now the point you were making.

#327 Re: The Garden » Taliban control of Afghanistan on the 20th Anniversary of 9/11 » 202 weeks ago

Also, no wonder Biden seems ambivalent about all of this.

https://www.politico.com/playbook

“By the time Biden became vice president in 2009, the disastrous war in Iraq, the endemic corruption of the Afghan government, and the return of the Taliban had made him a deep skeptic of the American commitment. He became the Obama administration’s strongest voice for getting out of Afghanistan. In 2010, he told RICHARD HOLBROOKE, Obama’s special representative for Afghanistan and Pakistan, that the U.S. had to leave Afghanistan regardless of the consequences for women or anyone else. According to Holbrooke’s diary, when he asked about American obligations to Afghans like the girl in the Kabul school, Biden replied with a history lesson from the final U.S. withdrawal from Southeast Asia in 1973: ‘Fuck that, we don’t have to worry about that. We did it in Vietnam, Nixon and Kissinger got away with it.’”

He hasn't given a shit this whole time.

#328 Re: The Garden » Taliban control of Afghanistan on the 20th Anniversary of 9/11 » 202 weeks ago

Randall Flagg wrote:

A diversion will be coming shortly, either some person of color shot before he could kill someone or another "mass" shooting will be brought to the forefront to distract the plebes.

Dude, not sure if you meant it that way but that's dripping with racism. The suggestion that every black person shot by cops was going to kill someone is fucked up.

Back on topic.

Separately thank you for the heads up on the intel on the bounty story being shaky.


This clusterfuck keeps getting worse.

https://twitter.com/BBCYaldaHakim/status/1427289069466304513?s=20

https://twitter.com/BBCYaldaHakim/status/1427268431649333263?s=20

#329 Re: The Garden » Taliban control of Afghanistan on the 20th Anniversary of 9/11 » 202 weeks ago

Looks like the US & Allies have lost control of the airfield. All military flights are now halted for time being until forces can regain control of the runways etc. This still includes US and other Western citizens and Afghans who were promised an escape.

This is getting worse. Fast.

#330 Re: The Garden » Taliban control of Afghanistan on the 20th Anniversary of 9/11 » 202 weeks ago

Smoking Guns wrote:
Axl S wrote:

Won't share the one where you can see people falling from the plane but if you go on Twitter you'll find it.

All just so sad. And unlike Saigon, more of it will be seen and it will be beamed round the world instantly.

Just saw it. Incredibly sad… they need to send troops in to secure the fvcking airport and stop this shit show.


There are two parts to the airport. Civilian and military. The US has troops securing the parts of the airport they need but it's a fluid situation. They do already have thousands of troops there securing the airport though.

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