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#321 Re: Guns N' Roses » Will the next single be something we've heard already? » 151 weeks ago

davegnfnr2k wrote:

Right, because Axl wants to have all that clipping in the songs. And again Axl approved those early mixes because Axl turned in a finished album the label rejected because the managers were pushing for a reunion even way back then.

I'm not saying Axl *wants* clipping intentionally, but maybe the clipping is a side effect of something else Axl wanted. We can't know. Maybe he wanted some frequency or some instrument to be louder when there was just straight up no more room, maybe there's no more room because he wanted multiple layers of something else. Maybe the mix has the entire characteristic it does because he was aping the sonic qualities of something else he liked. Maybe his own ears are damaged from years of touring and he can't even tell if it clips. Maybe someone at the label re-modified it and by that stage he'd got angry and checked out of the project - as I seem to recall it came out to zero acknowledgement from him until a year later.

I'm just saying if Caram was doing a shit job and the band didn't like it he would be gone, it's not like there's not enough money in the project to hire someone else to have a crack at it. But he remains. So someone of note likes what he does, or likes his attitude or something.

#322 Re: Guns N' Roses » Will the next single be something we've heard already? » 151 weeks ago

It's hard to know.

We don't know the extent to which Caram's mix sound is determined by Axl's requests.

Davegnfnr2k seems to say we know it's not the influence of Axl because Axl seemingly approved the 2000 mixes which he prefers. I agree with that on face value - but I mean it's Axl, one day he will make Silkworms with snyth, the next it will be a guitar rocker. We know he's influenced by other bands and their sounds in any given period, who knows how his views on mixing and loudness war and all that stuff might evolve between 2000 and 2008.

We also don't know the limitations Caram works with regarding the source material and how it's been modified over time or maybe stuff like adding in another 1000 tracks forces headroom changes in the way other tracks are handled.

Not saying Caram is awesome or something, I just kinda think at the end of the day if Axl wanted it different it would be different.

#323 Re: Guns N' Roses » Will the next single be something we've heard already? » 151 weeks ago

Hmm...I mean i prefer slash to bucket but ...he's not wrong there....I mean often I've wondered why GNR seems to get off on secrecy so much.

There's a whole lot of scooby do crap for a band that has put out one new album in 30+ years.

I used to think it was leading somewhere, now I just think it's mental illness.

#324 Re: Guns N' Roses » Will the next single be something we've heard already? » 151 weeks ago

I've often thought it must be challenging mixing for big name now-classic acts like GNR, Metallica etc as their star power means they can dictate how the mix must sound but they probably also have a lifetime of hearing damage so who knows if it sounds to them like it sounds to the puter/audio guy anyway.

#325 Re: Guns N' Roses » Will the next single be something we've heard already? » 152 weeks ago

We got the last 2 tracks at the point where the show and set had become extremely stale.

In the scheme of how many years they've been doing essentially the same thing they "only just" added these 2 new ones - so it would have been kinda too good to be true for them to drop another 2 at the very next tour.

My guess is it will happen and we will hear them, but not until the current set is really badly due for a refresh again, so basically a leg or two as is, and then drip feed us another new track like in a year or something.

Mind you i'd love to be wrong and they drop a single soon, then an album for xmas....but either way I think we'll eventually hear it....it's just kinda like things happen every few years with these guys not every few months lol

#326 Re: Guns N' Roses » Will the next single be something we've heard already? » 152 weeks ago

Yeah i mean we could easily make up at least an EP with just what we know...

Like we just had absurd and harschool.

So throw in Atlas, State of Grace, and Perhaps and you're already at 5 Tracks.

Couldn't be too hard to round it up a little more with a redone version of of Eye on You (those verse melodies are worth using somewhere), or a reboot of Oh My God. That's 7 songs.

Need anything else then could always remix one of the CD tracks...and that's just stuff we already know about....But I think there's probably other stuff - too many people have said there is. There's a least 2 or 3 other song titles we know.....and some people suggest there's 20-200 more songs so who knows. But it feels to me like that's enough content that one day something will come out.

#327 Re: Guns N' Roses » Why no Axl/Slash interviews since 2016? » 152 weeks ago

I think if and when they have any thing new to show they would do some.

Like Axl was doing interviews with Ac/Dc cos he had something to say about that and it was new.

The china exchange interview and the slash comments in the press are all that was required for the reunion cos there's kinda nothing to say. Like they had a 30 year drama and wasted a lot of productive years on it already. Going into who was right or wrong too deeply only risks turning a good thing bad again. Or bringing media attention onto the the things I assume Axl would rather they forget.

For now I think it's just going to continue on as reunion shows aping the UYI format like they do these days, if we're super lucky we will get some new music drip fed like those songs last year. Once a lot of those are out and it constitutes a new body of work again I could imagine Axl showing up in some format somewhere to answer a few questions about them....but at this point I dont think there's much to say is there?

#328 Re: Guns N' Roses » Will the next single be something we've heard already? » 152 weeks ago

The pattern suggests something we know.

Eg the last 3 were "Shadow of Your Love" despite being an 1990s B side CD single release, "Absurd" even though it had been premiered as Silkworms 20 years earlier and Hardschool even though it was well known and circulated among the online fans.

So he clearly doesn't mind old stuff. Which opens the door for stuff like Perhaps, State of Grace etc.

Then again it's Axl he likes to subvert expectations. The sheer fact we think it will be those might be enough to make it not those lol. But logically given the (assumed) issues around recording and the issues with his voice then one of the songs with completed or mostly completed vocals would be the logical choice.

#329 Re: Guns N' Roses » Does anyone else kinda miss the 09-14 lineup? » 152 weeks ago

I seem to remember MSL saying the hand wasn't able to feed for a good deal of time...but then what would I know.

#330 Re: Guns N' Roses » Does anyone else kinda miss the 09-14 lineup? » 152 weeks ago

I miss the 2009 Axl voice. He could scream TWAT note perfect back then.

I like bumble and DJ as people, but bumble is so good on guitar he should be given all the leads in any band he is in, anything else is just a waste of him. DJ was doing his best to ape Slash for the fans but at the end of the day if the band isn't going to compose why not just bring back the real slash? DJ might have been interesting if the band had composed some new music, and bumble would have come into his own in a 2 guitar version of GNR for sure. But none of those things were happening...so it makes sense they moved on.

Really, the reunion should have happened with Slash's 2004 visit and the whole 2006 return to glory for Axl would have been reunion shows. Sad the politics didn't let that happen. Then 2009 is sort of a wasted time where Axl still had scary abilities but yet they didn't move on a new entity or do a reunion. Just a weird limbo version of GNR.

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