I wonder who put it there, him or a disgruntled Axlite.

A huge proportion of GNRs fanbase is there because of their love of guitar driven music, not for sampled loops and protooled orchestras. Thats not because they are stuck in 1991 and dont want the band to evolve by the way, just down to particular tastes.

I'm not even a VR fan, but I still think its unfair to say that those guys are inferior to Axl and Axl=GNR because they made a couple of albums that are not as accomplished as Chinese Democracy. The main reason I think that is basically those albums were knocked out in next to no time at all. People can choose to dismiss the facts if they like when reviewing the album on its own merits, thats entirely fair. But when you start comparing CD to other albums I think all factors have to be considered, like time, money and contributers.

Personally I think the last Isis album, "In The Absence of Truth" is far better than CD or any of VR's albums.
They are small band who truly make music just for the pleasure.

Actually the thought just struck me that very few of the songs on Chinese Democracy sound like they were created from a labour of love.
Some songs seem like square pegs that have been beaten into a round hole. If that makes sense

Axl took 14 years, millions of dollars and a huge cast of tremendously talented people to make that record.
Honestly when you look at credits on this album - with the Beltramis, Buckmasters and Bucketheads whatever - with all the help Axl had, it would be harder to make a fucking turd than to make something sounding half decent.