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#3401 Re: The Sunset Strip » Van Halen Discussion » 698 weeks ago
Yeah I saw that pattern as well. Trunk is one of those people that tries to keep bringing up a reunion since he's friends with Slash and on good terms with Duff, Gilby, Steven, and some of the alumni. It gets kind of old after awhile. (well all reunion talk is annoying unless it involves Zeppelin or something) Plus he's pals with Ron; so his decision making becomes conflicting and ever changing. There is that sense that he's glad Chinese is out; but he just doesn't care for the record which is understandable. I think out of anybody in TMS or VH1 programming in general, It's Florentine that appreciates it. He said it was a solid album one time and had a few copies of some of the leaks that he would jam to. Have the copy of Ron's Pink Panther on my laptop and I like to bust it out on my laptop! Kick ass guitar playing and a sense of how this current lineup could work together on a new record! Without Ron, we probably wouldn't have an awesome theme like that for TMS.
#3402 Re: The Sunset Strip » Van Halen Discussion » 698 weeks ago
Yeah that review was quite unorganized and he didn't elaborate much on his opinion at all. Liked your rebuttal, Russ. I personally thought most of the album was better than some of the stuff on 1984 and even some of the Van Hagar songs too. It blew my expectations out of the way.
#3403 Re: The Sunset Strip » Van Halen Discussion » 698 weeks ago
russtcb wrote:I just read a couple of friends complaining about the album on fb and decided to just stay out of it. If you don't think this is one of the best VH albums of all time, you need to have your ears fixed or retire from listening to music. Period.
Just got a chance to read VHND's review. I agree with pretty much every word:
Van Halen: A Different Kind Of Truth
February 7, 2012After a career that has been firmly cemented as one of the finest in rock music, it’s hard to imagine that Van Halen has anything left to prove. Millions of albums sold, packed arenas, a game-changing guitar player and induction into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame easily adds up to one of the most successful journeys in rock history. But just over a year ago, when concrete evidence surfaced that the band was working on its 12th studio album and first with David Lee Roth since 1984, the resounding sentiment was guarded excitement. Would internal tension tear the band apart? Did Eddie Van Halen still have the fire in his belly? Could David Lee Roth’s signature vocals still send a shiver up your spine and put a smile on your face? Does Wolfgang Van Halen dominate his instrument like his father and uncle? COULD VAN HALEN STILL MAKE EARTH SHATTERING ROCK MUSIC IN 2012? The Van Halen News Desk has had several days to soak in the band’s new album, A Different Kind of Truth, and the answer to the last question could not be more clear.
Hell yes!
A Different Kind of Truth is an incredible album by any measure and proof that Van Halen still has plenty of gas left in the tank. And whether it’s true or not, ADKOT seems like the ultimate “thank you” to the world’s most dedicated Van Halen fans, many of whom are blasting the new album at insane volumes and pissing off their neighbors at this very moment. As bands grow older, history tells us that they mellow and change. After this many laps around the track, it’s natural to assume EVH, DLR and AVH would have motivation issues and simply mailed it in. It happens all the time. Bands lose focus or simply lose the desire and hunger to blow our minds. New albums become ghostwritten afterthoughts that are little more than an excuse to hit the road and play hits recorded decades earlier. Van Halen decided that’s a bullshit way to play the game. Instead, they dropped the hammer on 13 songs and melted our ears off with the result. Every unique aspect of the band’s recorded history is represented in some form or another, with more bravado and excitement than any reasonable historian of the band could have expected in his or her wildest dreams!
Which brings us to the seed material for roughly half the album. Many months ago, the Van Halen News Desk reported (exclusively) that the band was working on unreleased demos from 1976 and 1977. Longtime fans responded with a unanimous cheer, because while the songs were never officially released, they had been in circulation among collectors for at least 15 years. Recently, several critics and cheap-shot artists have decided that Van Halen took the easy way out by drawing from this catalogue of unreleased music (failing to mention that nearly half the album is completely new material). After hearing the album in full, we couldn’t disagree more. A great song is a great song no matter when it was first conceived. In fact, it’s well documented that rock bands regularly employ this strategy. All of the material belongs to Van Halen and was written at a time when the band was absolutely fearless. Eddie Van Halen was a riff-making machine during the late 1970′s, single handedly changing the way subsequent generations would approach the instrument. And while plenty of that music ended up on the first six albums, the band’s release schedule couldn’t keep pace with EVH’s creative output. Over time, their earliest material was overshadowed by what was happening in the moment, because Eddie was still at his creative peak. Furthermore, Eddie continued to dip into his endless surprise box of riffs and ideas on nearly every studio album through 1995′s Balance. When the band began recording last year, these unreleased classics were the perfect way to connect the past and present and shake the rust off with original singer David Lee Roth. We are 100% in favor of the band milking every last drop of creativity from that era – and there’s more where that came from. It is perfection defined.
Which leads us to the album. When word leaked that award-winning producer/hitmaker John Shanks was on board, there was an instant fear that he would pour a thick layer of pop syrup on the finished product. Shanks is known for his work with a number of top-40 artists, and fans wondered if those influences would affect the new music. Instead, it appears he used gunpowder. While Shanks’ ultimate influence is unknown, A Different Kind of Truth is heavier than any VH album since Fair Warning and is arguably the most aggressive Van Halen album ever! It is also devastatingly efficient. Working from the smash and grab blueprint of their early recordings, most of the songs clock in at under four minutes. Three cuts are under three minutes, which seems like the blink of an eye when compared to songs on the band’s later albums.
The album opens with “Tattoo,” the lead single and an interesting choice to kick off the set. The riff is based on an unreleased song called “Down in Flames,” known by fans from several early live recordings. A studio version of “DIF” has not been circulated, so all comparisons are relative to live performances. Reception to “Tattoo” was mixed, in large part because everyone expected the first single to be a flat-out ballbreaker. “Tattoo” is a good song with a catchy hook (absent from the original version) and is instantly recognizable as Van Halen – one of the band’s many gifts. With a volume-swelled ending that tips the hat to “Down in Flames” and “You’re No Good” from Van Halen II, “Tattoo” barely has a chance to soak in before the band thrusts the handshaker into another gear. The synchronized guitar/bass intro of “She’s The Woman” nearly knocks you cold and is an instant reminder that Van Halen can still work the heavy bag. The tune was originally recorded on the famous 1976 Gene Simmons demos and is nastier than ever. Aside from the chorus, Dave completely reworked the lyrics. The pre-solo breakdown, famously lifted from the original for 1981′s “Mean Street,” has also changed. But the essence of “She’s The Woman” remains solid to the core and is one of the most prototypical VH songs on the album. The driving riff is a cross between “Mean Street” and “Outta Love Again” and could have easily found a comfortable home on any early DLR-era material.
“You and Your Blues” is a new composition and would make a wise choice as a second or third single. This track hooks you early and never lets go. David Lee Roth lays himself out for this tune, delivering some of his most powerful vocals on the album. Lyrically, Dave pays tribute to some of our most famous blues songs and, probably not by coincidence, to a handful of guitarists (Hendrix, Clapton, Page, Richards) who share the top slots with EVH on any sane person’s list of greatest rock guitar players. “You and Your Blues” is also our first taste of the band’s signature background vocals, which obviously sound different without Michael Anthony, but very solid nonetheless. Complete with a soaring crescendo, this is a song that should set arenas on fire if they decide to perform it live.
We’re stepping out of order for the next quad-pack of songs, “China Town,” “Bullethead,” “As Is” and “Honeybabysweetiedoll.” Separately or as a group, these are four of the heaviest songs Van Halen has ever laid to wax, and are absolutely blowing people’s minds! Of the four, only “Bullethead” traces its roots to the 1970s demo material and is a fairly faithful rendition of the original. Nevermind that three-quarters of the band are pushing 60, it rocks just as hard. Then there’s the epic “As Is”. After Alex Van Halen’s jungle drum intro, hardcore fans instantly recognized one of the riffs as “Two Burritos and a Root Beer Float” – something Eddie performed during a September 2009 appearance on Two and a Half Men and even earlier during a 2003 NAMM demonstration. “As Is” grooves like “Hot for Teacher” on acid – a hard rock boogie for the ages busted up by a side-splitting country funk spoken word interlude that comes as a total surprise. “China Town” burns just as much gas, with gritty, streetwise lyrics that have always been an underappreciated component of David Lee Roth’s work. “Honeybabysweetiedoll” is the most experimental track on the album, but has generated a fast following among fans who like their Van Halen served up heavy and hard. It’s a thundering mix of wild, effects-soaked guitars, sinister vocals and a rhythm section that somehow holds it all together. “Honeybaby” is a haunting song, believed by some to be a derivative of an unreleased track from the “Women and Children First” sessions. The similarities are fleeting and frankly, not evident to us at all, as “Honeybabysweetiedoll” stands entirely on its own. We don’t consider it to be a reworked demo, but a brand new, massive beast that has no equal.
“Blood and Fire,” the album’s fifth track, washes over you like a time-machine and takes you back to the carefree days of cruising around on a summer day, windows down, blasting “Diver Down” or “1984″ from your custom Alpine car stereo with the fluorescent green buttons. We know it as “Ripley,” a tune Eddie recorded for the The Wild Life soundtrack in the mid 1980s. A full version of the song has been around for years, and was the only piece of music from The Wild Life sessions that featured Alex Van Halen on drums. “Ripley” was probably written around 1983 and is rumored to have been one of a handful of songs in consideration for the “1984″ album. Nearly 30 years on, “Blood and Fire” was worth the wait. Featuring nostalgic lyrics and his live trademark, “Look at all the people here tonight,” Dave has the charming ability to boast without making us hate him for it. “Told you I was coming back,” he proclaims. “Tell me you missed me. Say it like you mean it!” Speaking of boasting, Eddie Van Halen tears up the solo in this song, one of his best on the entire album. There’s plenty of tender guitar steak to chew on throughout the 13 track collection, but the “Blood and Fire” solo is one of those moments where you know Eddie is just killing it. It’s a beautiful thing, because when he’s on his game, there’s not a human being on the planet that makes a guitar sound so incredible.
While there are moments on ADKOT when Van Halen is effortlessly channeling the early 1980s, there are other moments when they sound like a completely fresh, re-tooled version of themselves. On “The Trouble With Never,” another brand new cut, Eddie plants his foot on a wah wah pedal and doesn’t let up for four solid, funk-filled minutes. Along the way, he trades licks with Wolfgang, who has clearly worked his ass off since the last tour – and it shows. We will even go as far as to say that Wolfgang Van Halen is the band’s secret weapon on this album. Eddie and Dave are always going to be the show . . . they are irreplaceable and untouchable rock legends. Alex Van Halen, content to stay in the background, never disappoints and is still one of the most powerful rock drummers alive. To our ears, ADKOT is a showcase for some of Alex’s most aggressive playing yet (see “As Is” and “China Town.”) But Wolfgang’s effort is much more than a pleasant surprise – it’s downright impressive. He doesn’t just hold down the bottom. He absolutely owns it. It doesn’t hurt that the bass is mixed loads higher than all but a couple of the band’s previous albums, which is long since water under the bridge as far as we’re concerned. Whatever the reason, WVH had a ton of latitude and takes complete advantage of the opportunity. We are convinced his musical talent will continue to impress many years after his work with Van Halen is complete.
The final four tracks on ADKOT are just amazing, and are comprised of three classic gems and one new tune, “Stay Frosty,” an “Ice Cream Man” boogie that BEGS to be played live. Again drawing inspiration from their 1977 Warner Brothers demos, the band grinds out new versions of “Let’s Get Rockin’” (“Outta Space”), “Put Out The Lights” (“Beats Workin’) and “Big Trouble” (“Big River”). Musically, “Outta Space” is probably the most faithful recreation of its unreleased counterpart, with a delivery that is equal parts “Atomic Punk” and “Light Up The Sky.” A Different Kind of Truth ends with “Beats Workin’,” which is considerably changed from the demo days. The riff still sounds like it came straight out of the 1970s, but an improved chorus and wild post-solo breakdown (somehow melding “Day Tripper” and “All Right Now”) are the icing on the cake.
After several complete listens, there are several additional takeaways from A Different Kind of Truth. First, it’s great to have Eddie Van Halen throwing the fastball again. His guitar work on this album is a firm roundhouse to the jaw of every gasbag who took joy in saying his chops were fried. In our book, it takes a lot more than a few tough years to knock the king off his throne. Second, it’s beyond magical to have David Lee Roth recording with Van Halen again. Dave’s voice, words and overall flavor have always been the perfect complement to Eddie’s music. Dave’s a sharp, funny guy who deserves as much credit as anyone for making this project happen. For the most part, Dave has been doing the talking in the weeks leading up to the album’s release. From his interviews with Ed and Al, to his storytelling at the Cafe’ Wha?, Dave seems sentimental as he approaches his late 50s – almost taking on the role of band historian. Perhaps that’s why it makes so much sense that his role has come full circle. Which brings us to a final thought about the CD booklet. Detailed liner notes and lyric sheets have become a lost art in the digital age. On occasion, interested fans might download a .pdf of an album’s lyrics for a quick glance before letting it rot forever in a random download folder. The liner notes for A Different Kind of Truth are a throwback to the great album booklets of our youth. Lyrics for all thirteen songs were entirely handwritten by David Lee Roth, with accompanying sketches, doodling and artwork. Dave put a lot of work into the final product and it’s a keeper, creating an additional connection to the music that is often overlooked.
28 years after the last full album with David Lee Roth, A Different Kind of Truth is exactly the album Van Halen fans wanted. Selfishly, we don’t want Van Halen to evolve, we want them to pick up where they left off. Miraculously, that’s almost exactly what they did. At the beginning of this review, we speculated that Van Halen recorded this album with their most dedicated fans in mind. Whatever the motivation, we owe Ed, Al, Dave and Wolf a huge thank you and an even bigger round of applause for a mind-blowing, masterpiece of an album. We hope this isn’t the end of the road because the last month has been a singularly awesome experience. We couldn’t have asked for anything more.
Great review... perfect
I agree. When I read this review online yesterday, it brought a smile to my face and put all my doubts to rest!! Going to listen to some of this album later today! Us fans can now rejoice!! We won!!
#3404 Re: The Sunset Strip » Van Halen Discussion » 698 weeks ago
THE ALBUM KICKS SO MUCH ASS!!! LOVE IT! LONG LIVE VAN HALEN !!! Favorite songs are probably Trouble with Never, China Town, You & Your Blues, She's the Woman, As Is is great too, and some of the other songs are great too! Not a single crappy or filler song in sight!
#3405 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » SLASH: New Album Release Date Announced » 698 weeks ago
I can't wait to hear that song!! I'm hoping Down by the Ocean gets released in some shape or form in the next few years. That's why I personally think Axl should go the Brian Wilson way and release a few CDs of just session work, demos, and commentary and sell them at all retail stores and online stores at a fair price ($15 to $25). Then release a limited box set filled with a ton of content. I heard some of the Smile Sessions and the stuff on there was mind blowing. The session work on the album itself is a masterpiece that they could finally paint a picture on what the hell was actually going on at the time. Axl and the GNR session members can put the legacy to rest and the current lineup can release the new songs written with DJ, Bumbles, Frank, etc.
#3406 Re: The Sunset Strip » Van Halen Discussion » 698 weeks ago
russtcb wrote:Me_Wise_Magic 91 wrote:Awesome man!! Enjoy yourself. Picking up the album when I get back from campus later tonight, then after dinner i'll be rocking out!! xD Getting the Deluxe version of course! So worth it!
Yessir.
This record is fucking awesome. So many instant classics on it. Let me know later if you watch The Downtown Sessions and you want the tracks in mp3 format. If so, I can upload them and get you a link later.
That's kinda how I feel. I listened to that live version of "Tattoo" again the other day and i'm sitting there going, "what the fuck is up with the negativity on this song? This is VINTAGE Van Halen. It's catchy as hell".
And like I said before, Van Halen could've walked in and laid an egg. I thought the Roth '96 tracks on the Greatest Hits were hit and miss. Me Wise Magic ruled, but the other one stunk. Same with the Sammy tracks in 2004. Learning To See was good, the others crap.
I was really curious to see what Van Halen IV would be... and it was alot like Van Halen I. They just picked the ball up and ran with it.
And for Van Hagar fans, some of the guitar melodies from Eddie have remained intact from that era, at the same time incorporating his hard rock persona from VH I & II.
NOW it truely is the 'Best of Both Worlds'.
Dude..I was thinking the same thing about Tattoo as well. I love the song. It's catchy and has Dave & the boys written all over it. For some people it takes awhile to grow on ya; but over the past few weeks I've listened to it on Youtube and Spotify and just jamming and trying to sing along. I liked the song better once Dave posted a vid about the lyrics. So..bad ass!! I don't think it's a weak song or single at all. In some ways it's better than anything on VH3 and some of the stuff on Diver Down or the song I'll Wait in my opinion.
Couldn't of said it better myself my friend!! There is reason why I listed my twitter and my forum profile as ME WISE MAGIC xD I use it as personal identity when I make music with others.
@Russ: that would be cool man! I was thinking about burning a copy and giving it to a friend of mine. I'm starting to think Chinatown and the Trouble with Never and Y&YB might become my favorite tracks on the album once I buy it! I need to hear As Is and others too!! So pumped. Waited for this record for awhile now..and so far it's going beyond anyone's expectations. I follow the Van halen news desk all the time and I loved their review. Jim Florentine did a pretty good review on his podcast after he shut up about the Super Bowl lol.
ROCK ON EVERYBODY!!!!
#3407 Re: The Sunset Strip » Van Halen Discussion » 698 weeks ago
Awesome man!! Enjoy yourself. Picking up the album when I get back from campus later tonight, then after dinner i'll be rocking out!! xD Getting the Deluxe version of course! So worth it!
#3408 Re: Guns N' Roses » Happy 50th Birthday W. Axl Rose! » 698 weeks ago
HAPPY BIRTHDAY AXL!!! THE BIG 50! Live it up and party man!! Hope you get to enjoy it with family and friends!! GNR!!
#3409 Re: The Sunset Strip » What Are You Listening To? » 698 weeks ago
Hangar 18 and some more MEGADETH!!!
#3410 Re: The Sunset Strip » American Horror Story » 698 weeks ago
Can't wait for Season Two. Got into the show around the 2nd or 3rd episode I believe. Now I have some time to catch up on some of the episodes and some other shows I keep missing that are online. Jessica Lang was amazing throughout the whole show. It was something new for TV for a change. I just wish they added more to the season finale though. Some questions still left unanswered oh well. The demon kid is probably going to make a return too. I'm hoping they reuse some of the characters from this past season and use them really well next time around. Hopefully we won't have to wait too long. They are probably going to do the Walking Dead thing and wait till next October.