I never got the isolation does nothing. I mean isolation in regards incurable virus is pretty much the safest strategy anyone can take period.
That was the part I disagree with Buzz vehemently about, but his other points are valid and worthy of discussion.

buzzsaw wrote:

misterID wrote:

The meat packing industries kept people at work during the quarantine, they followed safety guidelines, and their workforce is now wiped out with covid, their entire industry is crippled, they're now staring down the barrel at class action lawsuits. I'm sure companies are looking at Tyson and thinking they made the right decision to comply with stay at home orders.

What does that have to do with what I posted?  No response to what I said, so you take a sharp left on a fishing expedition to see if anything nibbles there? 

How many of those people died?  How many of those (if any) that died were at risk and shouldn't have been at work in the first place?  This is like the political thread all over again...if you're not 100% behind shutting everything down, then you're 100% for opening everything up.  No.  There's a lot of area between those. 

I'll say it for the gazillionth time hoping this sinks into someone's (anyone's) thick skulls.  Isolate the elderly and the at-risk.  That one simple task does as much if not more than what we've done to date.  It's not an opinion; it's the numbers.  The numbers tell you who is at risk.  Not the news, not random people that had random outliers happen to them or someone they love.  The numbers.

And I"ll say it again...this is too simplistic...you know this won't work. People are already not following the rules. All it takes is one asshole walking into a nursing home who doesn't care.

3,000 deaths a day by June buzz....I hope you keep singing this tune all the way through the summer. By my count, that means 90,000 more deaths by the end of June.

GET PEOPLE TESTED AND LET'S FIND OUT WHO IS AND IS NOT INFECTED! Then we'll talk.

buzzsaw wrote:

misterID wrote:

Mitch is not being unreasonable in his concern. We still don't really understand this disease, or how badly this thing is fucking people up. Young people are having strokes with it and no one knows why. All I see are people telling us to take their word, everything is fine and only old people are dying.

Because that's what ALL of the actual data says.  If anything we're being asked to take it at people's word that this is a big issue for most people...none of the data says that.

I've said since this began we don't know, so I'm not disagreeing with that part.  What I am disagreeing with is this being the way you handle something you don't know.  That is completely irrational.

The meat packing industries kept people at work during the quarantine, they followed safety guidelines, and their workforce is now wiped out with covid, their entire industry is crippled, they're now staring down the barrel at class action lawsuits. I'm sure companies are looking at Tyson and thinking they made the right decision to comply with stay at home orders.

buzzsaw wrote:

TheMole wrote:

And, as predicted, we've surpassed the 67k mark today.
Also, about that so called "peak", I feel a better description might be "plateau". A peak implies a downward trend, and looking at the data for the past two weeks does not show a downward trend at all. The country seems to be hovering between 1500 and 2000 deaths per day fairly consistently.

Well, they are constantly adding to the data, so sure.  I mean the data is flawed data.  Garbage in, garbage out.

So I suppose all that pouring over data to write your thesis and dissertation on data that don't matter was a big waste of time then, huh?

Mitch is not being unreasonable in his concern. We still don't really understand this disease, or how badly this thing is fucking people up. Young people are having strokes with it and no one knows why. All I see are people telling us to take their word, everything is fine and only old people are dying.