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#3531 Re: Guns N' Roses » Overall feelings on the CD era songs.... » 887 weeks ago

bigbri wrote:

Overly hyped,  yes. Just like the Star Wars prequels, but still far and away better than MOST rock out there now. If there is mainstream rock getting major play that is better, feel free to point it out.

the problem with requesting this is if anyone does mention something that they feel is better they'll simple be ripped for being ignorant. I mean we've already had comments like that. If we dont' see the songs how others see them than we're showing ignornace? Really? I know that's not how this forum usually rolls but you can sense it when people say stuff like "If there is mainstream rock getting major play that is better, feel free to point it out" in a way that suggests no matter what we say we're simply wrong. I think the Foo Fighters are better than this stuff. they're alot better live band as well.  I like alot of Seether's stuff, Smashing Pumpkins latest album blows this stuff outta the water in my opinion. How current does it have to be? can we go back to a band's latest release? Stereophonics last album was better than this stuff, Muse's last album was better and *cough* U2's album will be better:P.  But this is all just my opinion.

And for the record I think the popular opinion on the Star Wars prequels was they were overly hyped yes,  but they were most definately NOT far and away better than most movies out there. In fact weren't  the Star wars movies criticized for having a lack of vison story wise(song writting) and weren't they crticized for being to cluttered with CGI(Production), and didn't alot of Star Wars fans start to resent Georges Lucas for loosing site of what Star Wars was?  Hmmmm.... kinda like someone's lost sight of what Gn'R was(maybe).  Star Wars might be a bad example to use in support of the CD era material wink

#3532 Re: Guns N' Roses » Overall feelings on the CD era songs.... » 887 weeks ago

You know what's really funny is how some of you say we can't  judge the CD material based on the wait or compare it to old Gn'R yet those same people use words like "Considering the people in Velvet Revolver they were a massive let down" I mean let's consider who's been in Gn'R and this is what we get? Arguebly a more talented band than the original Gn'R and for them to come up with this stuff after 10+ years of working on it is rather sad.  Does anyone else feel the CD era songs are decent for a few days or so and then you gotta burry them on you playlist for months on end to appreciate them again? I do. I can't listen to these songs consitently over long periods of time. I can't leave a disc of CD songs in my car and listen to it for a work week. The songs have no lasting appeal.  And I gotta get this off my chest. For everyone saying Buckethead owns these songs and that he's basically forced the "haters"(who actually hates BH anyways?) to fuck off with this material, please explain to me exactly what you're  hearing that's  so amazing? And please do so in a non condesending way that suggests if we can't hear it we simply don't know what we're talking about. I hear it but it's not mind blowing or even that great to me. Honestly Slash has better solos and guitar work on VR's albums in my opinion. My favorite CD era solo is the last solo on Better and that's Robin so I'm just not getting the Buckethead rules these songs thing.

James I do think the shit VR came up with is better. It's produced better and musically it rocks harder. It's not pretentious in it's attempt to be meaningful. It's not a cluttered mess. It is what it is. CD isn't aything. That's the problem.  I'm not saying VR's albums were great cause honestly I didn't like them but I've always said their songs  on an individual basis smack you in the face and are stong. As albusm they dont' work.  My opinion on VR has always been interchange Scott for Axl and you've got your kickass Gn'R record.

#3533 Re: Guns N' Roses » Overall feelings on the CD era songs.... » 888 weeks ago

Saikin wrote:

This music is beyond VR's music, that's for sure.  Most VR songs sound quite generic, there is nothing generic about these songs in my book.

See that's the crazy part.  These Gn'R songs sound nothing but generic to me. There's nothing organic about them. No heart, no soul and like I sad last night in the chat the guts sound rotten.  Just a cloudy mess of production.

#3534 Re: The Garden » The NFL 2008 Offseason Thread » 888 weeks ago

It's not drama. If it was anyone other than Superstar Owens it'd be a non story. They're looking for drama. T.O. will be just fine.  If it was Romo peope woudl thik it's legit but since it's T.O. people question it. We all know how hard the guy trains, he just sigend a new contract, he loves being on the Cowboys so relaly there's no reaosn for him not to be there unless it was a legit family issue. I dont' see the big deal.  The only drama Dallas is gonna have to deal with is that bimbo Jessica and her fucked up dad. 

ROMO DUMP THAT SKANK!!!!!

#3535 Re: Guns N' Roses » Overall feelings on the CD era songs.... » 888 weeks ago

I agree with PaSnow and Mikkamakka. Although I wouldn't go quite as far as to call the songs "turds", I will however call them extremely average at best but with slight(and I mean slight) flashes of brilliance.  And this notion that people can't like VR songs more than these is ridiculous. I'm no fan of Contraband or Libertad. Both were huge letdowns but both albums contains some solid rockers, some of which surpass what "Guns N' Roses" material we've heard. Especially Slither. In my opinion that song is better than anything the new Gn'R has done. At the very least it's tied with Better.  I'm a little tired of the talk about how brilliant Axl is and this is all a plan that's been well mapped out. What the fuck? This is anything but well planned strategy. It's flat out amateur shit and reaks of someone who has no idea what they're doing. That's not soley direcetd at you Elmir but at that whole idea which has been voiced by many over the years. I listen to a huge range of music. I'm a dj who spins techno and hip hop yet my personal CD collection is anything but so I hear alot and know alot of music(as we all do) and to be honest I just dont see how any of this new Gn'R stuff fits into the great category.  I do agree with you Elmir that these are just demos. My god they have to be. The production on them is just too damn shitty.  For arguement sakes(cause thats' what we do 16) the production on Contraband and Libertad blows these CD songs outta the water. How anyone could hear the production on these as satisfactory is beyond me.

#3537 Re: Guns N' Roses » ALL Artlicles About Leaks (Post in here) » 888 weeks ago

Communist China wrote:

Well Bono I pretty much agree it can't be taken seriously even with an official release, but I no longer about new GN'R being big. I love the music and I just want more of it, regardless of what the media says. Most music critics and casual fans mock Blind Melon too, but it doesn't mean the music isn't amazing and worthy of praise greater than what it gets.

Very true. In fact i saw a thing on Much Music last night where the "host" made some stupid comment that Blind Melon was most definately not  popular based on their music but because Shannon Hoon was an addict who died of a drug overdose. What a stupid coment. Yeah peopel liked Blind melon cause of Shannon's addiction problem. Unreal.

#3538 Re: Guns N' Roses » ALL Artlicles About Leaks (Post in here) » 888 weeks ago

CrimeSlunkScene wrote:
Bono wrote:

Hate to say it but that's  pretty much the reaction this thing is gonna get.

Well, the articles above say otherwise.

I think that it's pretty obvious that it'll get its fair share of crap from some at the same time that it'll shine at another place - exactly like with the previous leaks.

from Rolling Stone keep in mind. And I only see one of those articles jumping for joy.  Everyone and their dog is gonna want an exclusive interview with Axl and alot of these big magazines won't risk pissing him off.  It's gonna be tough to gage what responses are legit. We're gonna get the ass kissers and we're of course gonna get the people who can't wait to rip into Axl. As far as music journalists go I  think we're gonna be hard pressed to find one who'll write an honest review one way or another. We'll see I guess.

#3539 Re: The Garden » What the fuck is wrong with youtube? » 888 weeks ago

PaSnow wrote:
Neemo wrote:

now they are consiencious of copyrighted material :sick:

They were bought by Google, however I don't think its' so much that Google has become concientuous, as much as it is other companies (NBC, Daily Show, Movie studio's) don't want Google to make advertising $$ off of their clips for free. So they are forcing Google/youtube to take down their copywritten material. I don't think Google is choosing to do so willingly, as much as they are being asked/told


I did notice this myself, I have some old video clips on my myspace page & just recently noticed all 3 or 4 of them don't even work anymore. I'm too lazy to update it, since I rarely use myspace much anymore.

that totally sucks. You use to be able to type in anything music wise and it'd pop up. the rareest  of things too. now it blows ass. I simply wanted to watch a live video of Stereophonics last night and couldn't view a single video by them. Youtube is garbage now.

#3540 Re: Guns N' Roses » ALL Artlicles About Leaks (Post in here) » 888 weeks ago

No article but they talked about it on the local radio here today for a good 3-4 minutes. Nothing positive. Alot of jokes about how long it's taking and pretty much trashed the new leaks, the most common thing which seemd to be said over and over again was "we waited that long for this" The one dj called for a reunion immediatley.  Hate to say it but that's  pretty much the reaction this thing is gonna get. That will be the overwhelming consensus especially from the general public I feel.

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