Nope its whistling for sure, its a nice little melody but all too brief. Mabye when I get the album and play it on the stereo more whistling will be obvious during the song, but thats all I noticed. Those instant messenger noises are brain damage and you cant really just take in the music as you normally do.

It could be that the whole mysterious, rarely seen Axl Rose is just as effective as a marketing tool as giving lots of interviews. It has been quite effective over the years in feeding his legend.

Mabye he just dislikes that side of the business so much that will just not do it. Its not so good however that the people in the band are quite reluctant to answer questions incase they say too much.

I have seen a picture of the actual disc.

It was on youtube and it was a collage of images, most of them we have seen, i.e the album cover and the booklet.
But one image was of the actual cd case sitting open, the back of the booklet was on the left (duh, of course) on the right was the cd sitting in place.

Its nothing spectacular, you could probably guess it in 3 goes.

It did look as genuine as any of that booklet did. It was only on youtube for a couple of hours, I wonder where the person got that pic of the disc tho, I didnt realise at the time that it wasnt out there.

Just listened to Catcher again. I never new how damaging listening to the demos could turn out to be. It seems like a horrific cover version of the original I once knew.
I cant listen to it without screwing my face up.

I wish I could hear it without such a prejudice, it doesnt seem like everyone is working off the same page? Its really odd, its more like a mess around. It sounds more like a fecking demo than the demo!

Well obviously I knew it was Axls album but I always believed that I accepted it as a GN'R album, now I dont.

I dont believe Axl is GN'R just because he is the only one left. He is still just old Axl, but with a mighty brand name at his disposal. Its a new frame of mind for me.

Now I really want this band, or whoever that consists of come the tour, if any tour - to stand on their own feet. Play this album out live and any other new songs you feel are not "too advanced and ahead of their time for Guns N Roses fans" (shut up Pitman, we all heard silkworms!), make this new material the main body for this band and fill in the gaps with the old classic songs.

I know I'm not adding anything new to the neverending debate, but I have honestly never felt like this since I heard the whole package. And to quote Rocky Balboa, as he singlehandedly ended the Cold War:

"If I can change!  And yoooo can chaaaaange!! Everybodyyyy caaan chaaaaaange!!!"