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#361 Re: Guns N' Roses » Appetite for Democracy » 389 weeks ago

It would've been like that scene in Pick of Destiny where they're in a riff battle with the devil.

Buckethead vs. Bumblefoot with Axl in his giant throne chair, grinning maniacally.

Man that would've been a cool idea. Guitar solo battle!!!!

#362 Re: Guns N' Roses » Appetite for Democracy » 389 weeks ago

I'm not as high on Bumblefoot's original work from what I've heard but he could've cleaned up DJ's clunky riffs if they wrote an album together or Axl could've pushed Bumble's work to a new level.

And then you have Buckethead who could've written four albums in a month or two and Axl could've melted them all together. Instead, we all know what happened.

Waste of talents, indeed.

#363 Re: Guns N' Roses » Appetite for Democracy » 389 weeks ago

It's a shame humanity has the gene for not appreciating a good thing until it's gone.

Bumblefoot was consistently great during his tenure with GN'R.

While Axl was peak 2009-2010 and that era band was peak in 2012, Bumblefoot was a constant.

I loaded up a couple Appetite For Democracy tracks and it reinforces my opinion that the only thing I like Modern Guns doing better is The Seeker which actually has some verve and cohesion to it. If they ever do record something the speed metal thing could be a legitimate avenue of exploration. Conservative as they come for rock songs but probably their only card to play.

#364 Re: Guns N' Roses » New Slash solo album with Myles Kennedy and the Conspirators incoming » 390 weeks ago

kermit the Trump wrote:

Would it do wonders? What are these wonders exactly?

The broader issue is that Guns N' Roses is a band without a future, it's only a band with a past.

If it had a future, fan service of any kind builds your brand loyalty, expands your fanbase, and creates good will.

Case in point: Axl chats. Everyone on the boards were buzzing after those puppies. Then... it fell off a cliff like usual.

kermit the Trump wrote:

I'm not gonna disagree. I am blown away that there wasn't some type of release. Anything released in 2016 would've sold like hotcakes. They've needed a new GH/Best of for years. When that time passed, I realized there must be something wrong with the relationship/contract with the label. You don't just let something like 2016 and of course #AFD30  pass by with nothing unless there's a legitimate reason.

It's not just live releases.

You can do a fan video you post on Facebook that asks a smattering of fans "Where were you in 1987 when Appetite came out"?

Like, share, subscribe. Warm fuzzies and big chubbys.

kermit the Trump wrote:

I don't call nightly 3 hour shows "literally nothing". They are giving you an insane smorgasbord that is not required. They could kill half that setlist and no one would go home mad.

Yes, the show is pretty epic, a valid point.

And yes, no one would rather hear CD songs over the hits, but all acts pimp b-sides and latest releases. I'm unmoved by their inclusions.

kermit the Trump wrote:

The fifteen year delay between new albums was by design. Their new album was like a popcorn fart. It likely reinforced their feelings and even if they were younger, probably would be their last album.

It depends on how pretentious you wanna be about it.

I know people who gave up on The Stones after Brian Jones died, some after 1980, and so forth. I like Voodoo Lounge, I like Bigger Bang. I'd give em all a fair shot and am happy to pick through the garbage. If you just want to hear Brown Sugar live, have at it, but in the 90s-00s scenario, everyone was largely winning.

The difference between The Stones and GNR is that The Stones didn't have X albums in the closet borderline ready to release. The politics, neither, but the gun has had plenty of bullets in the chamber.

This goes back to the main point: both GNR and Axl Rose's Lonely Chinese Club Band got shelved for AC/DC.

kermit the Trump wrote:

You don't just let something like 2016 and of course #AFD30  pass by with nothing unless there's a legitimate reason.

I think the rumored Azoff/Axl rift was over touring royalties. It could be that, forcing Axl to renegotiate a deal that runs counter to his interests.

But at the end of the day, Axl can find a way to get music released if he wants to.

#365 Re: Guns N' Roses » New Slash solo album with Myles Kennedy and the Conspirators incoming » 390 weeks ago

I’m not talking aging athlete syndrome or mortality, although that is a perfectly valid argument.

My point was the machine needs to build up again and continue operating full time. Stop and go didn't exactly do wonders for New GNR, yeah?  This means promo, media, live albums, fan service worth a damn, and *gasp* new albums.

Or they could sorta cobble an album together. Great. GNR does Honkin On Bobo or Just Press Play. Please, God no.

Start with a single, then an EP, then an album/tour, then a break, then another album. Instead... AC/DC.

Sp1at was right, 30 years on, what's the point? And especially not after a reunion tour that went nowhere. The latest missed golden opportunity for Axl to make good.

Same old fears, my friend, same old fears.

monkeychow wrote:

It took 2 years from 2006 when CD was basically completed (Bumble additions) to actually get it out in 2008. So yeah...it's 2 years from when they start working on it at least probably. Maybe they could skip some of that by using older tracks and overdubbing slash - but who knows if those songs are what Axl would want to do anymore.

I think Team Brazil not negotiating business deals would've been a strong opening move.

Azoff took over and it was out in 8 months (and he probably had a tour and preliminary negotiations for CD II prepped).

monkeychow wrote:

Who knows if those songs are what Axl would want to do anymore.

He probably can't sing half of the songs he recorded vocals on anymore but based off the fact he seems to get a boner during every performance of The Seeker, I think he'll probably be pretty jazzed to anything that isn't the hits.

#366 Re: Guns N' Roses » New Slash solo album with Myles Kennedy and the Conspirators incoming » 390 weeks ago

monkeychow wrote:

No one owes us anything as we're told often

Such a boring statement.

Actually, a piece of propaganda disguised as a boring opinion.

A. Businesses release product. Consumers buy product. No product, no consumers.
B. If strict capitalism doesn't work for you, how about "artists passionate about their art find ways to get their art released"?

I'm voting with my dollar and not going to any more shows. I had a better time with Bumble and Friends.

monkeychow wrote:

But you'd think this would be a chance for the artistic side to shine through.

This "all the time in the world" sentiment is nonsense.

An object in motion tends to stay in motion. Past tendencies dictate future actions. Etc.

AFD didn't happen in 1987, the pump was primed for 4-5 years from different pieces of different bands. Producer search, re-recording, live shows to work out the kinks. One genius album isn't coming together in a year, they'd do well to release a respectable EP with Jackie Chan and build up to the album. Axl needs to get back in that space, too. Not endless touring or talking about Tim Cook. We're looking at 2020-2021 for the (theoretical) START of the process.

But speaking of age, The Stones released their last new album at the age Axl will be when he's done with AC/DC. The idea that he's gonna come back to GNR fat off AC/DC money rearing to get a new GNR album going is deluded. I liked The Bigger Bang, for the record.

We'll be lucky to get GNR 95-96 sessions finished up and out the door as The Endless River.

Maybe Axl will release CD II as his personal Blackstar? Probably not, though.

We're all just dumb enough hoping ancient leaks will spring up. There's nothing else to possibly look forward to.

#367 Re: The Sunset Strip » Most Recent Movie You've Seen » 390 weeks ago

johndivney wrote:

I like Mtt Damon & liked the Martian but yea obv they were going to rescue him. Decent latter day Ridley. Never bothered with the book.

I loved the book. The movie was meh. Lost the flavor and structure of the book.

johndivney wrote:

Alien: covenant - felt exactly the same after seeing it in cinema, I felt like I was only person who enjoyed Prometheus given hate it’s received. More time has passed I enjoy the schlocky nature of covenant & utter disregard it has for Prometheus + Fassbender is absolutely fucking brilliant in it. Overlooked & actually pretty great taken on its own.

I love Alien: Covenant.

I wanted to like Prometheus but there was just too much stupid shit in it. I didn't buy it. Great looking film though.

#368 Re: Guns N' Roses » New Slash solo album with Myles Kennedy and the Conspirators incoming » 390 weeks ago

kermit the Trump wrote:

The world has changed, more specifically the musical landscape. We're getting awfully close to albums meaning nothing anymore and may have already crossed that line.  They are a minor promotional tool for your tour and are forgotten about five minutes after they stop trending days after the release. Nobody in the crowd is really there to hear any of it unless its some massive single.

Yes, this is correct, but your argument is largely self-defeating.

If Atlas Shrugged is so inconsequential, maybe do whatever legal bullshit you have to do, and throw up an MP3 on Nightrain. It would do wonders.

Or have Fernando accidentally send a couple alts and b-sides to the loose-fingered Portuguese cabal.

The reunion tour could and should've been a really cool celebration for GNR fans. Same for AFD30. But it turned out to be jack shit. The most fan service-y thing they did was the free ticket promo and that is likely spinning a non-sold out show into a positive. It's a stunning lack of imagination and one of the biggest examples of brand mismanagement since... ever.

GN'R does literally nothing for their fans. It is purely a one-way, lifeless transaction at best and a passive "fuck you" at worst.

Is it any surprise the dogs are wolves? Or that the some of the most hardcore fans have left the boards in disgust?

#369 Re: Guns N' Roses » New Slash solo album with Myles Kennedy and the Conspirators incoming » 390 weeks ago

The two options were continue on with Guns N' Roses or pursue the Axl Rose solo project.

Instead of making a decision on either, he went with the safest option - join AC/DC and make money.

It's unsurprising but it still sucks.

#370 Re: Guns N' Roses » New Slash solo album with Myles Kennedy and the Conspirators incoming » 390 weeks ago

It leads me to conclude the rumor about the LA band and hit producer wasn’t true.

If you’re signing a deal, you don’t sign it 3 years in advance or as a backup plan.

So, either a deliberate misdirection troll (doubtful) or Axl/DC for a couple years followed by a GNR farewell of some sorts followed by Axl riding off into the sunset with more money than God.

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