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#361 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » SMKC new single out 22nd October » 191 weeks ago
I just can't get into this generic cock rock stuff he has hung his hat on. The solo album in 2010 with the myriad of different singers was the last time he sounded remotely inspired (bar Absurd and Hard Skool) - make's me wonder if there were a host of professional song writers in behind the scenes - it of course helps having A-list singers and producers on deck
To me it's just a reminder of what each of the OG members brought to the table, and why they all needed to be present to make the magic happen.
Slash: Cock rock, Aerosmith, bluesy rock licks.
Duff: Punk, Prince-style funk, plus nascent Seattle grunge scene energy.
Izzy: Rolling Stones.
Steven: Loosey-goosey Van Halen-esque "happy rock" feel.
Axl: Queen, Elton John.
You can just about get away with losing Steven because you've still got the Duff punk-funk energy and Izzy's Stones-style rhythm.
But with the departure of Izzy and Steven you can see Axl taking more of a lead, so the pendulum starts to swing towards Queen/Elton John style Big Piano Ballads on UYI. That reaches its apotheosis with Chinese Democracy, where it's like 90% piano-driven epics with overblown layers of production.
With the new stuff, you can hear Duff throwing in some slick, snaky bass licks with that Rocket Queen energy (1:55 in Absurd, the intro and 2:55 in Hard Skool). You've obviously got Slash throwing down his signature licks, which he could do in his sleep at this point. But it's missing Izzy's Keef-esque complementary rhythms. If you listen to the riffs at 1:23 in Ghost, off the first Slash solo album, you can see how Izzy's laying down a choppy counter-rhythm that fleshes out the sound of the song.
And that's missing on Hard Skool – the rhythm (Fortus? Huge? Who fucking knows at this point) is just playing essentially the same riff as Slash. So it just sort of chugs along. And that's leaving aside the chugging drums that everyone whinges about, which I'm assuming were Frank – Brain, at least, brought that Adler swing to the band.
So, yeah, I like Hard Skool, but you can see wasted potential in it.
Anyway, as you were, back to discussing the solo album.
#362 Re: Guns N' Roses » Slash: GNR has not written any new music, everything completed is CD 2 » 191 weeks ago
Talking of old stuff
It's truly hilarious how much material spun out of those CD sessions while Axl was fucking about. Buckethead and Tommy's solo stuff, Black Label Society, A Perfect Circle... and 14 GN'R songs.
#363 Re: Guns N' Roses » Slash: GNR has not written any new music, everything completed is CD 2 » 191 weeks ago
So am I reading it right that they have stripped everything bar drums and vocals?
Where does that leave Dizzy, Melissa and most of all Fortus? Are they featured ?The more Brain and the less Frank the better for me...
Literally the most interesting thing about the NITL "reunion" was the prospect of Fortus and Slash jamming some new tracks. Beggars belief that they haven't got around to doing that.
#364 Re: Guns N' Roses » Slash: GNR has not written any new music, everything completed is CD 2 » 192 weeks ago
whhhhyyyyyy can't they just be a normal band and get together in a room and jam some FUCKING SONGS?
#365 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » SMKC new single out 22nd October » 192 weeks ago
Kinda funny that Slash's new song is in the snazzy new Apple Dolby Atmos format, and the new GN'R tracks aren't.
#366 Re: Guns N' Roses » Will GNR release new music in 2021? » 192 weeks ago
I still can't tell if it's the same Buckethead outro.
It's definitely not. Buckethead skips all over the fretboard doing his rollercoaster tapping thing. The outro on the single is a much simpler hammer-on-pull-off run up the fretboard. I think Fortus does some tapping if you watch the live performance but it's still a straight ascending run rather than Bucket's weird atonal scales.
#367 Re: Guns N' Roses » Will GNR release new music in 2021? » 192 weeks ago
Intros and excessive length songs plagued CD imo. A good example is Scraped: a good song, could use better lyrics for the chorus but I love the bi polar lyrics everywhere else. But the intro is garbage! I had a buddy listen and he wanted to skip before the song even started because of that intro.. They should of started that song with the intro they used live with Frank on drums, that would rock.
Riad- dumb intro
Chinese- super long intro, should have been a separate track like other bands do
Better- not as bad but imagine the live intro now going right into the songAnd they should have cut the long middle part out of Madagascar, I can't stand it!
I do find it kinda hilarious that the biggest change Duff and Slash made to Hard Skool was to chop the intro. "Nope, don't need that, bass straight into the riff, bish bash bosh."
#368 Re: Guns N' Roses » Hardschool single coming September 24th. » 193 weeks ago
Isn’t it funny that Slash used Josh as his drummer on the Slash 2010 album, probably knowing very well that Axl had used him for the Chinese Democracy sessions.
And as for the suggestion of him being brought out to play for the 2016 reunion tour? I’d welcome that for sure, the guy is an absolute monster drummer!
Would've been great, but isn't Freese more of a session drummer than a live performer?
#369 Re: Guns N' Roses » Will GNR release new music in 2021? » 193 weeks ago
gavgnr wrote:sp1at wrote:The ISRC code for Absurd is USUG12103950, and the ISRC code for Hard Skool is USUG12103961.
Sometimes for albums, the codes run as a numerical sequence (I think this happened with CD and other GN'R releases), so this could imply that an entire album has been handed over, and that Hard Skool is 11 tracks after Absurd on the album. Nothing is registered on the numbers in between, but there are other tracks for other artists before and after these codes.
Of course, it might mean nothing
Hopefully means something. How did you find this?
The ISRC is generally found on streaming sites, or song directory sites. It doesn't conclusively mean anything, I think Better had a slightly earlier reference to the rest of CD, but if the band have submitted a batch of songs, they can follow a sequence that matches the tracklist
That kinda suggests that at one point they envisaged Better being a single.
Which it should have been. Their approach to the CD singles was nonsensical. Chinese Democracy with that extended intro and no radio edit, and Street of Dreams?
It should've been Better straight out the gate, and TWAT for that "November Rain epic" vibe (and to prove that the CD-era guitarists could throw down when it came to an epic Slash-style guitar solo).
#370 Re: Guns N' Roses » GN'R 2021 Tour Thread » 195 weeks ago
He absolutely rips Hard Skool, too. Accidentally sings the final "scream" line in the second-to-last chorus before the twiddly-widdly guitar bit.