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#381 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 380 weeks ago

misterID wrote:

Agree, Iran is by far a greater threat to us than Russia or NK.

We're already under attack and our intelligence agencies have warned us that more is on the way.

Russia just successfully completed a comprehensive cyber attack against our country and our democracy. They penetrated various voter systems throughout, undermined our confidence in our elections, hacked infrastructure, power grids, aviation, spread fake news and utilized social media to perform psychological warfare on our citizens. This is tantamount to an act of war, which our do-nothing Congress and complicit bozo in the White House seem perfectly fine appeasing.

#382 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 380 weeks ago

Smoking Guns wrote:

Loest unemployment in forever.


Oh, so we're back to counting UE the right way again? We're not factoring in PT jobs, or those who gave up? Just curious. Back to the Labor Bureau of Statistics again!

#383 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 380 weeks ago

PaSnow wrote:

Yeah, it's looking that way. I started to think the Stormy Daniels thing was a small piece to a bigger puzzle, now its tying together (TBH I thought she was gonna be the 'Pee Tape Video', just that the details of 'russian hookers' got mixed up in a whisper down the line kinda way).  Anyway, $500,000 from Russian money I would think becomes a very serious & concerning campaign & election violation. Plus, I think the $500K is again, a small piece. As they're just singling out Cohen. Has Kushner, Flynn, Jr received money as well? Were wire transfers with Trumps & Russians common?  Entirely possible, I think they were trying to get Cohen to flip, he refused, so now they're dropping this evidence against him, so now he's shitting his pants facing years in prison.

Funny, he probably thought the Feds couldn't find it cause it all was handled on his burner phone.

I saw a great tweet today that essentially said that while we though the Stormy Daniels thing was a side issue, it's actually all one story.

Looking at this, Mueller picked this Russian Oligarch at the airport to question him. That's a pretty big deal, out in the open and a show of force. More than likely this was linked to the money wired to Cohen's account. It also explains why they did a raid on Cohen at his residences and place of business. They had enough evidence of wrong doing and worried that he may destroy it if given advance notice. Once Mueller was into the finances, he saw the Stormy Daniels payment, which he referred out.

But as you said, I bet there is much, much more to this and I agree.

#384 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 380 weeks ago

misterID wrote:

Giuliani... That was a car crash.

Trump would do better representing himself. I mean, what the hell is going on with Giuliani? I loved watching Hannity's reaction to that.

PaSnow wrote:

I'm tellin ya, the Feds were wiretapping the Russians & in the midst of the investigation the Trump teams stumbled into the taps. The Feds weren't seeking the Trumps, they appeared into it.

I agree.

That's essentially what other intelligence agencies around the world reported to our country. They were alarmed at how often Trump came up.

#385 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 380 weeks ago

Dots starting to get connected: Cohen took a 500k payment from a sanctioned Russian Oligarch tired to Putin. The same Russian was picked up at the airport a month back and questioned by Mueller.

Either way WTF is Trump's lawyer doing taking half a million bucks into his shell company from the Russians? On top of that there was corporate money (AT & T)  flowing into this slush fund as well.

I'm sure this is all totally benign. I mean Cohen only had 16 cell phones,which is also totally normal.

#386 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 382 weeks ago

Trump's lawyer Cohen takes the fifth, which is nuts. Huge bombshell.

It's also now come to light why Manafort is being investigated for collusion (among other things): The Trump Tower meeting with the Russians. Let's not forget that Trump Jr. was part of that too.

If Trump is not shitting bricks right now...he should be.

#387 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 384 weeks ago

PaSnow wrote:

I dunno dude, I'm just shocked he's this bad. I mean George W was bad, but I think it isn't even close.

We'll see. I'll give you this, if it is only Stormy Daniels and petty campaign stuff, I'll be pissed. I can't see this not being big tho.

This has very little to do with Stormy Daniels anymore imo. The warrant was issued because they clearly feared evidence would be destroyed if they gave notice. Cohen has his own set of problems now, probably financial issues and whatever other illegal stuff comes up from this. While this isn't part of the Mueller investigation I can easily see Cohen becoming part of it via a plea deal. We'll have to see if he gets charged and how serious those charges are.

This is an entirely new set of legal problems for Trump. Mueller on the other hand is tightening the noose with his investigation...

#388 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 384 weeks ago

Smoking Guns wrote:

This is a kangaroo court. This is not what our legal system is supposed to be. A Fucking circus. Very embarrassing state of affairs. Why the attorney for the porn star and the porn star were there is beyond me. Also why did Hannity’s name have to be disclosed? Seems like abuse of power.

The warrant was signed off by a Trump appointee.

#389 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 384 weeks ago

Bad day for Sean Hannity. 16 I'd imagine it will be worse once reporters find out WHY he was using a clean up guy as his attorney.

Another shit day for Cohen, who I'm guessing will be indicted in the next few months or less after the FBI raided his residences and business.

Crap day for Trump who is watching the walls close in. 5

Bad day for Fox News, but I doubt they give a shit.

Remember when they said it would be wrapped up by the end of 2017? Remember all the Republicans who claimed nothing would come of this? Trump wasn't under investigation? Nobody was making deals? Flynn wasn't flipping? Stormy Daniels/Cohen payments wouldn't amount to anything?

The same people are still saying nothing is happening, and claiming zero evidence. This is what I'd call delusional.

This thing is heating up bigtime. Cohen's warrant was a pivotal moment in all of the Trump drama, which he has now on two fronts that we're aware of.

#390 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 385 weeks ago

misterID wrote:

I doubt it. Looks like he played the media. The "secret communications" with Wikileaks was basically Wikileaks telling him to stop bothering them.
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That many be part of it, which only proves him to be a liar at best. But Stone announced all sorts of things ahead of time in regards to leaks. He also claimed to have lunch with Assange. Perhaps it's all puffing, but the result of that is Mueller is investigating his claims now. He's another man who lies quite often, which would not bode well for him under questioning. I still believe he'll end up under the bus somehow.

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