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#31 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 207 weeks ago

mitchejw wrote:
misterID wrote:

He was knocking them out.

I think you missed the point. He's saying Motley Crue was notorious for something similar.

I didn’t get that from reading PASnows post??? I thought he was just asking for clarification of how Cosby was drugging them, because he couldnt remember.

#32 Re: The Garden » Covid 19 » 209 weeks ago

I booked an appointment to get my Pfizer yesterday. Earliest time I can get a slot was 1st September!

#33 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 212 weeks ago

Randall Flagg wrote:
Smoking Guns wrote:

China makes shit cheap and people like cheap shit and to a degree they have kept our suppliers honest from fvcking us even harder.

I am all for cutting ties with China, but our costs will go up across the board I would imagine.

Distancing ourselves in any meaningful fashion isn’t possible. They have the precious minerals needed to make microchips and circuitry. Ours were all shut down. They make our electronics. This isn’t something that can be done at the drop of the hat. Mass processor output manufactured in the US would take years and subsidies to manifest. Trade laws and our inability to ever legislate properly something like this just makes it impractical. We design the damn things, but they’re manufactured in China.

We need China more than they need us day by day. The real threat is if China bans US exports, not if we reduce our imports.

The Chinese have been playing a very LONG term game for years now.  They aren't constrained with thinking and planning only about 4 years ahead (the length of a typical political parties term), they continue to work towards a very uninterrupted long term vision.

Western countries in general need to reduce their reliance on China.  I know here in Oz the Chinese government hasn't thought twice about killing certain industries here in Oz in retaliation for our Government daring to request an investigation into the source of the Carona Virus.  They have put sanctions or tariffs on our Barley, Beef & Lamb, Wine, Cotton, Lobsters, Timber and Coal.  All as punishment for daring to have an opinion that doesn't fit with the CCP's narrative.  So far they haven't been able to really hurt us with the biggest export - Iron Ore, but they would and will if/when they can.

Our country has no manufacturing to speak of and aside from exporting resources no other really signifcant industries (aside from tourism)  We need to diversify who our exports go to and open up new markets to reduce reliance on China, but also start to think much longer term about other industries we can start to bring back home, even if the cost is higher.  China doesn't think and act like a traditional Western free trade partner so anything critical relied on from them needs to be addressed, as they will eventually use their position for leverage!!!  Their monopoly on rare earths is a huge issue and I know governments are looking at that and trying to locate and develop alternatives (there are rare earth deposits here in Western Australia that I know our government and the US is closely following to try and get commercialised).  The Chinese have been trying to get ownership of ports here as well as buying up large amounts of pastoral land and other primary industries.  All of these type of issues need to be addressed by our government and other Western countries as part of a very long strategic vision for the next 10-30 years that needs to be worked towards irrespective of which political party is in power over the duration.

#34 Re: The Garden » Covid 19 » 212 weeks ago

That sucks Monkeychow, Victoria has had the worst luck with Covid.

I’ve been saying for about a year now that the Federal Government should be managing Quarantine and should have invested and coordinated in a dedicated facility for returning citizens. Hotels aren’t bloody fit for containing a virus! 

I think Scomo stood back and thought “fuck we won’t get involved at a Federal level we will leave it to the states, that way when things fuck up the state Premiers will get the blame but not us”. But it seems like that is finally backfiring and people are blaming this latest outbreak on the Federal govt.

I also think Scomo has totally fucked up the one thing he was involved in - vaccines. We have (from what I have read a day or two ago) about 2% of the population vaccinated. That’s a fucken disgrace and a major fuck up!

Btw I’m not some Labor lover either Albanese annoys me, but I’m just calling the Libs out at a Federal level for their monumental inaction and when they have administered something like the vaccine they have fucked it up royally!

#35 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 219 weeks ago

Something I can’t understand is why the fuck has Hunter released a book and is now going around promoting it??

If I was him I would be trying to keep all that shit under wraps!!! It makes him look so guilty of everything he has been accused of in the past from underage stuff to anything and everything else. Massive miscalculation IMO!!!

Imagine if this was one of Trumps kids, the media would be busting a nut over the whole thing!!

#36 Re: Guns N' Roses » Axl to appear in Scobby Doo on Feb 25th. » 226 weeks ago

If DJ Ashba was still in the band he could have done a cameo as Scrappy Doo’s relative. Everyone hated that bloody little annoying dog big_smile

#37 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 230 weeks ago

It's pathetic, they are happy to allow short selling and let the hedge funds etc make a killing off of effectively creating a self fulfilling prophecy by driving down a companies share price.  The collateral damage to the company and existing shareholders is completely ignored.  But get a big enough collective of buyers to drive the price the other way thereby costing them money - look out!!!

#38 Re: The Garden » Lost my mom.. » 230 weeks ago

Sorry to hear of your loss mate, good to hear that it sounded like she got see you all one last time before she passed.

#39 Re: The Garden » A personal matter I could use advice with... » 231 weeks ago

Congrat's on winning, hopefully it gives you the opportunity to try and start putting some of it behind you now.  I hope the financial impact of the whole situation is not too bad!!

Good to know you won though, hopefully that gives you a bit of validation that you weren't the problem or the crazy one.  Sadly there are just some shit people in life that have no good in them and they just take advantage of other people regardless of the cost and impact.

#40 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 231 weeks ago

I thought this was a good opinion piece on the current situation I came across from an Aussie journalist.

OPINION

The move by the US political and corporate establishment to ban Donald Trump from public office and social media is so breathtakingly stupid and potentially dangerous you could be forgiven for thinking it was orchestrated by Trump’s hard line supporters themselves – were they not also so breathtakingly stupid and potentially dangerous.

Indeed, its staggering folly can be exposed with just two words: What then?

In the first case it undermines the American left’s greatest weapon in its repudiation of Trumpism, namely Joe Biden’s resounding election victory. While the razor thin result in the battleground states should serve as a dire warning for coastal wokesters, there is no doubt Biden won the election fair and square and won it well.

And so why trash a triumph of democracy with convoluted congressional proceedings that will have no impact on who gets sworn in on Inauguration Day? At best it is a wholly symbolic crucifixion of Trump at a time when, according to the President-elect himself, the nation desperately needs unity and healing. At worst it will be a rallying point for a Trumpist resurgence.

‘WTF’ DECISION PLAYS INTO TRUMP’S HANDS

Is there a moral or legal case for Trump to be impeached? Certainly. In the space between the election result and the storming of the Capitol, Trump transformed from a cartoonish and roguish figure to a genuine threat to the American democratic process.

I suspect this was more the result of his rampant narcissism than any calculated or sinister malignance but that is neither here nor there. The only salient fact is that Trump must go.

But the fact is he is going, and going as a result of the people’s will. Why on earth would Washington politicians muddy the waters by allowing him to claim he has been removed only by a congressional conspiracy?

Trump has always claimed the election was rigged and illegitimate. The attempt to remove him via impeachment only reinforces this view and gives his diehard followers the evidence they need that he is a victim not of the American people but the Washington elite. It could not play more perfectly into Trump’s hands.

Indeed, the clear driver of Trump’s increasingly deranged and erratic behaviour since his election loss was his inability to accept that the American people had turned against him. His alternate facts had deserted him and he was trapped in a cage of inconvenient truth. Now the Democrats have just handed him a get out of jail free card.

I genuinely cannot imagine even a kindergarten-level Australian political strategist performing such a self-damaging act. Indeed, a veteran Labor advisor texted me these exact words as soon as the move was afoot:

“WTF are Dems thinking? There will be chaos, guns and nuts everywhere running amok. It will make the storming of the house seem like preschoolers arguing in the sand.”

The same strategist was almost alone in the Australian left in publicly predicting a Trump victory four and a half years ago. As of today I suspect he has more political brainpower than the entire Democratic caucus combined.

The conspiracy theories of tens of millions of Trumpers have, in their own minds, been confirmed. God knows what this will mean for the next election campaign but you can bet your bottom Bezos it won’t be a civil one.

SOCIAL MEDIA MISSTEP

As for Trump’s deplatforming from Twitter, Facebook and YouTube – not to mention the deplatforming of an entire platform in the form of Amazon’s removal of Parler – one also has to ask the question the tech giants clearly never asked themselves: What then?

There has long been talk that the lay down misere option for Trump would be to launch his own cable propaganda network dubbed Trump TV. After all, he already has 75 million potential subscribers.

But television is a notoriously expensive and complex medium. How much cheaper and easier it would be for Trump to launch his own social media site. All he’d have to do is set up the platform and the content would provide itself for free.

Twitter’s banning of Donald Trump could lead to a Trump version to spring up. There he and his acolytes could spread whatever conspiracy theories and plot whatever revolutions they wanted. The only difference is it would be largely unchecked and unchallenged by mainstream views.

This is the staggering hubris of political and corporate elites, or perhaps just their staggering naivety. Like the cartoon mouse that covers its eyes and thinks it is invisible they assume that if they cannot see something it no longer exists.

But even this assessment is probably too kind. It would be generous to think that the Silicon Valley strategy is to wipe Trump from the public sphere and hope that his 75 million voters will then miraculously forget about him or forget about their fears or miraculously change their minds.

My strong suspicion is that they actually forget that Trump has voters at all. That they are so far removed from the seismic rumblings of real people in middle America they think Trump is the only person they have to worry about. It is a critical mistake.

BIDEN’S NEXT MOVE

In all the endless coverage and holier-than-thou pronouncements that have accompanied Trump’s election loss and the ugly scenes that followed, I have seen and heard almost nothing that fully appreciates the vast numbers of people who voted for him despite his myriad failings.

The great irony is that the one man who does seem to appreciate it is Joe Biden, who, having achieved a record voter turnout, was quick to realise that the second highest ever turnout was for his opponent. Hence his impressive and immediate appeal for unity upon claiming victory.

It is of course a national sport to speculate that Biden is suffering from some form of dementia or another. But even if he is it would still make him smarter than most of his colleagues.

America is a country that desperately needs peace but is beset by provocation. It contains in its belly an angry mob — or, perhaps more accurately, two angry mobs.

Both need reminding that democracy is their salvation, not their jailer. Washington parlour games only serve to make them feel that they are forever in exile.

https://www.news.com.au/world/north-ame … 856906e0d6

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