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#391 Re: Guns N' Roses » How hard is it to leak a song? » 813 weeks ago
It's easy to get a file onto the Internet.
It's not easy to get the file in the first place.
And like any action, there are repurcussions. The hoarded song has no value at that moment. You can't use it to get another commodity. You can't leverage it for information about other songs, or use it to get something else that you want.
And then there's also this parodox. The people that got these things are probably super fans. Do you think THEY want these leaks, bad tape recordings, and otherwise unfinished things reviewed in Rollingstone or whatever? Probably not.
But when they play the game the way they play it, they can get songs, they can hear songs, and nothing gets too out of hand.
That's the way I imagine it playing out.
And imagine if you gave someone a song, and that get's leaked out at some point, do you think you're going to trust that person again with a trade? No, they will be a suspect. Because whoever leaked it lowered your net value, preventing you from getting songs. That's a helluva scarlet letter you put on yourself in however big that "hoarding community" is.
Technically, not hard.
Relationally, very hard.
#392 Re: Guns N' Roses » If its the same old set list will you go?? » 814 weeks ago
Yes, because the old setlist had Prostitute and If The World on it (...they just never played them!)
#393 Re: Guns N' Roses » GN'R makes official tour announcement on MySpace » 815 weeks ago
Ugh.
But what I really want to know is how the book signing went and if the bike was found?
Can anyone friends with GNR sort of jab em' a good one on MySpace?
I'm not gonna believe it until I download some audio from these shows!
#394 Re: Guns N' Roses » GN'R makes official tour announcement on MySpace » 815 weeks ago
If you Really want to rattle a religious salesman, ask them about the apocrophia...the scrolls that were not canonized for some unknown reason. Or ask them where exactly in the bible it mentions when Jesus was born- and where it says to celebrate it (it doesn't)
Mention how christians hijacked Christmas AND easter from pagans because they couldn't make them stop celebrating them-and ask them WTF chocolate bunnies and eggs have to do with their version!
Or....crank up Black Sabbath's NIB and elaborate on how that song changed your life....
I assure you that none of those things you mentioned would rattle a thoughtful, or educated, evangelical... even a conservative one.
#395 Re: Guns N' Roses » GN'R makes official tour announcement on MySpace » 815 weeks ago
DCK wrote:Just like someone saying God exists and I saying God doesn't. Then it's not MY responsibility to try and prove God doesn't exist, but the other person responsibility to prove God does indeed exist, as he/she was the one putting forward the argument. Alright?
Reminds me of the times not too long ago when I had my fun with Evangelical missionaries, who were foolish enough to lecture a former Sunday schooler/Neo-Heathen about Jesus. Once those poor saps admitted to read not much aside the Bible, I instructed them on the fact that Milton's Paradise Lost, Dante's Divine Comedy and Goethe's Faust are all actually deeply theological texts and offer supplementary information on the Devil, Hell and all the other interesting things the old book omits.
Ehm... Milton, Dante, and Goethe were writing fiction, not perpetuating or producing, or claiming to produce, "sacred texts". In fact, they're usually pretty funny. When I read them in college they came off like dark comedy or satire. It's not suplimentary information anymore than some fanwank's GNR fan fiction or comic is relavent to the reality of GNR. Snarky forum story FAIL.
#396 Re: Guns N' Roses » GN'R makes official tour announcement on MySpace » 815 weeks ago
Thank you.
Now, get that website shtick sorted or pull the plug on it. I can't see the benefit the evils at MLB get for keeping it hostage. Fact is, GNR.com is still touted as the official website - if it's an MLB hoax, deal with it.
Don't ask for compliments for handling the bare essentials.
If you believe MLB is holding it hostage, you're insane.
Axl, Del, whoever, they have a password for the CMS/backend to make all the updates they want. Whatever they want to do is a phone call away. There's no hostage situation.
#397 Re: Guns N' Roses » From sebastianbach.com » 816 weeks ago
I thought Baz had offed himself, then I realized the thread was off topic.
Phew.
PS:
I'm in the 'Courtney killed Kurt' camp.
#398 Re: Guns N' Roses » GNR tour dates in Canada? » 818 weeks ago
Gagarin wrote:Arenas vs Theatres...
Well.
A theatre = 1 or 2 thousand, maybe capacity. That's a big ass theatre. 1 person more than 2,000 and they can't get in.
An arena = 5-10 thousand in ticket sales, 20,000 capacity.... Who cares if it's not full, besides fans pissing about the old days? Anyone who can come can buy a ticket and come.
If you then paper the show - half-off, free, buy 4 get 8 free, whatever - the venue still pulls in people it can sell beer to, more merchandise still get's sold, and there's a few more cars they can sell a parking pass to. That's gravy. A theatre is dealing with the SAME fixed costs, with much LESS opportunity for revenue for all involved.
What matters is how many tickets you needed to sell to make it worthwhile.
90 percent of a 2,000 theatre < 50 percent of a 15,000 arena.
Why is Gn'R selling out 50% of a 15 000 seat venue but only able to sell out 90% of a 2000 seat venue? Ask any sports franchise in the world if they care if they play to a half empty arena? The atmosphere isn't nearly as good and the same thing goes for concerts.
1.) The 90% was to make a point that an impressive looking number 'nearly sold out' doesn't mean anything. It's about covering costs and making money for everyone involved.
2.) See MLB. Their stadiums are mostly empty all season. But they're big enough for playoffs and big games...because you can't magically make a stadium twice as big for when you have the customers. Just like they can't make a 2,000 seat theatre 4,000 seats big if the demand allows. You upsize your venue to maximize revenue.
3.) With the lights out and sections blocked off (unlike sports, the lights are ON), you don't even notice.
#399 Re: Guns N' Roses » GNR tour dates in Canada? » 818 weeks ago
Arenas vs Theatres...
Well.
A theatre = 1 or 2 thousand, maybe capacity. That's a big ass theatre. 1 person more than 2,000 and they can't get in.
An arena = 5-10 thousand in ticket sales, 20,000 capacity.... Who cares if it's not full, besides fans pissing about the old days? Anyone who can come can buy a ticket and come.
If you then paper the show - half-off, free, buy 4 get 8 free, whatever - the venue still pulls in people it can sell beer to, more merchandise still get's sold, and there's a few more cars they can sell a parking pass to. That's gravy. A theatre is dealing with the SAME fixed costs, with much LESS opportunity for revenue for all involved.
What matters is how many tickets you needed to sell to make it worthwhile.
90 percent of a 2,000 theatre < 50 percent of a 15,000 arena.
#400 Re: Guns N' Roses » GNR tour dates in Canada? » 818 weeks ago
http://www.ckoi.com/concours.php?a=infos&cid=5351
LOL...
DJ Ashbalahzhalzikai will REALLY draw those rock / GNR fans! ...
