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#411 Re: Guns N' Roses » The next GNR album: Current known state of songs » 97 weeks ago
James wrote:It suggests there is more music to come
I think so too.
The promo blitz for Perhaps is too big for only one song.
Agreed
It's panning out as stated. Year of touring, then Slash doing his thing. There's something afoot to keep GNR rolling over, and in the consciousness of people, in the absence of touring.
They have visited studios while touring.
It'll be interesting to see what happens. I have to say, it's all alot more professional now, they have done well.
Some of those studio visits will be for the Micheal Shenker song/songs. Which I believe are coming first quarter of next year. But I agree there is more going on than we know new music wise
#412 Re: Guns N' Roses » The next GNR album: Current known state of songs » 97 weeks ago
It suggests there is more music to come
I think so too.
The promo blitz for Perhaps is too big for only one song.
This is why i believe the CD is not advertised yet. Would give away there is more than two tracks on it.
#413 Re: Guns N' Roses » Perhaps (2023) to Drop » 97 weeks ago
It's hit 1.1M now
#414 Re: Guns N' Roses » The next GNR album: Current known state of songs » 97 weeks ago
It might be helpful to organize and discuss the tracks.
Apparently a cellphone photo of a stapled fax machine document which may have been fake circulated online in 2019. This is said to have included 25 song titles, most from ChiDem or included in the storage locker leaks, with these notable additions:
"Dragon"
"All I Wanted"
"Seven"
It was All I Ever Wanted, which if real could make it a Depeche Mode cover or anything. I tend to believe this list is real. If I remember right the paper work showed Engel and Engel which was a law firm that had done work with with and also against Geffen in the past. The head lawyer was a guy called Don Engel who died a few years ago. He once helped Don Henley get out of a contract with Geffen. So there is a bit of a connection there.
It's a hell of well researched detail to throw in on the papaerwork if someone was going to fake it. It's not impossible of ccourse, but it does nudge it into the probably real column for me.
#415 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General confirmed next » 97 weeks ago
I remember The General had a lot of mentions and Axl or other members talked about it. Can anyone remind me what they said and what we know about the song, please? Cause i remember there was a part of OPERA in the song or something like that... but i´m confused
"GN'R was sort of just work for hire . I met with Axl and he played me these songs, asked me my ideas about them, and I told him what I thought they needed. They gave me four songs to orchestrate. A song called 'Seven,' which is the one I actually wrote a guitar part on. There was one called 'Thyme,' one called 'The General,' one called 'Leave Me Alone.'" (Marco Beltrami, IGN, 07/20/03) he worked on the songs in October of 2002.
“One of my favorite songs - I asked axl if I could mention the song titles and he said "fine"--and one of my favorite songs is this song called "the general" which is so, it's by far the heaviest metal tune I think i've ever heard axl do, this slow grinding riff with these high piercing vocals, screaming vocals. I was like , when is this coming out? and he said "2012" I was like dude, you're killing me! He goes, "well this comes out on the third record. it relates to this song, it's a trilogy, this goes with this lyrically." he's got it all figured out, he's just different than other people. he does things in his own time, in his own way, but you know...the worlds not prepared for what i've heard from this guy. It's got the grandness and the epic-ness of November rain but with the snarl, the attitude of appetite. because the album that i've heard, a lot of the drumming is by brain, who plays so heavy and mean. it's really...grand is the word for it, but it’s still got that attitude.(Sebastian Bach Metal Edge Magazine 2007)
Umm... I don't know... last year Brain had this song called 'the General' that was really cool... and another song called "we were lying [not sure if that's the name he said]" ... I don't know. (Dizzy Reed, Sp1at, January 2006)
"Yes I wrote the general! Not sure if bucket or robin are on it... It will have to be a surprise!!! (Brain)
"You may have heard parts of it somewhere".(Axl Rose, chinesedemocracy.com, Dec. 2008)
The band played a gig in Vienna in 2010. After the show there was a party at The Box in Vienna, this was covered for Fashion TV, who filmed band members essentially promoting the channel and a line of drinks it seems to have/had, vodka ect.I don't know if money changed hands but it would seem that the channel/company laid on fancy cars, models and the club so that GN'R could uphold there side of things and promote Fashion TV. Axl mentioned "all these girls'' at the show so they were obviously in attendance there too.
Bumblefoot was actually sick for this show according to his facebook so the fact he was at the aftershow promoting this stuff indicates that he may have been contractually obliged to do so. In addition to Bumblefoot, Fortus, Ashba, Pittman, Ferrar, Stinson & Dizzy were there, so essentially the full lineup of the day with the exception of Axl. Who if he was there must not have wanted to appear on video.
Michel Adam Lisowski a Polish businessman is the President and sole owner of Fashion TV was seen partying with the band. At this show unreleased songs were played on the sound system at the club. Among them was what seemed to be a complete sounding version of The General. This is where the cell phone clip of The General and Silworms came from.
The Opera thing is more than likely nonsense. I found on the wayback archive a few months ago the original place that started. It was said Sarah Brightman sang on the song, and that she was interviewed about it in Opera magazine in October 2003. I found a copy of the magazine and there's nothing in it.
#416 Re: Guns N' Roses » Perhaps (2023) to Drop » 97 weeks ago
Looks like they fixed there claim that the song was written this year
Wonder if Fink ect got lawyer's on to them to change it
#417 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General confirmed next » 97 weeks ago
Shacklermyrye wrote:So i confess my knowledge of records is slim (i grew up with cassette's and CD's) but if this is right...
7" Records (often referred to as 45's) can be cut at 45 RPM or 33 1/3 RPM. When cut at 33 1/3 you can hold approximately 6:00 minutes per side. When cut at 45 you can hold approximately 4:30 minutes per side. These numbers are not set in stone, just a suggested maximum. Going over these suggestions can result in a loss of sound quality. https://www.urpressing.com/7-inch/
That means The General is probably under 6 min.
November Rain was obviously a big hit single and released on vinyl around the world back in 1992. It's an 8 minute and 53 second song, but was released as 45rpm in most markets. A few released it in 33 1/3rpm.
I believe the US, UK, Germany and France were 45rpm and Spain and Australia were 33 1/3rpm.
Ahh I see, thanks. Like i say records not really my area. As far as i'm concerned The General could be an hour long and I'd probably be happy.
#418 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General confirmed next » 97 weeks ago
I heard Shacklermyrye's version.
It's not really a spoiler though...it's more like an "imagining" of what it could be.
That video has had nearly 1000 views in 24 hours lol. I assume it's been shared somewhere. Evader will be glad this song is coming out at last. We get to know the actual words. Crazy day.
#419 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General confirmed next » 97 weeks ago
Shacklermyrye wrote:https://i.postimg.cc/Sxms9j2j/Screenshot-49.png
I dont doubt I'm more than likely wrong with the lyrics to this thing. But when I tried to improve the audio to hear the words one of the line's i settled on was "Monster's call me, Monsters coming" just before the heavy section.
Maybe the general is a monster after all
For once could he just say, yes it will be on streaming when it releases. Like we know the answer is yes.
The cryptic, hint bullshit got old a long time ago.
It will probably be released 3 days early by accident on a radio station in GTA 5 online or something stupid
#420 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General confirmed next » 97 weeks ago
So i confess my knowledge of records is slim (i grew up with cassette's and CD's) but if this is right...
7" Records (often referred to as 45's) can be cut at 45 RPM or 33 1/3 RPM. When cut at 33 1/3 you can hold approximately 6:00 minutes per side. When cut at 45 you can hold approximately 4:30 minutes per side. These numbers are not set in stone, just a suggested maximum. Going over these suggestions can result in a loss of sound quality. https://www.urpressing.com/7-inch/
That means The General is probably under 6 min. Also this could be hopefull thinking but I find it hard to believe there wont be a CD at all. Them actually making a video for this song and the song getting good reviews makes me think it will at least outsell Hard skool and for sure Absurd.
so what if the reason one hasn't been announced yet is that there is more on it than 2 songs?
On a 7" they can obviously only fit 2 songs but knowing this band they could still be deciding on live tracks to fill out a CD. Or maybe it will be held back untill the other couple of songs are ready to go.
