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#41 Re: Guns N' Roses » Steven Adler Reddit AMA » 435 weeks ago

Axlin16 wrote:

Haven't posted really since I saw my show in July of last year, because there's been nothing of real interest. GN'R is now trying to copy the AC/DC-model to capitalize on being a multi-million dollar global stadium touring act. One of the last few in rock.

Saw this Steven interview, it was the first real thing of interest I had seen since last year after Izzy blew it off, and everyone (Steven included) stopped sucking their dicks, so they could be VIP's of the band.


This interview pretty much confirms a feeling I had when this story broke in April of last year. I always felt that Steven's "back" was nothing more than a cover story. Steven has HIS version of truth (to quote Duff), and blames basically everything on his back. Steven would have you believe that he was locked in to play half the shows, if not 2/3 of the shows, and his back went out, and he was 'just fine later in the day', and that they immediately brought Frank in.

What i'd love to know is what Axl, Slash & Duff's true HONEST opinion on it is. And what you're probably going to be told (especially from Axl), is that.... *drum roll* -- Steven couldn't pull off the tracks.

"But wait Axlin, I saw Steven on some YouTube cell phone video rehearsing and he was GREAT! You're full of shit! Frank sucks!"


What you saw was what Steven WANTED YOU TO SEE. What you saw was ONE TAKE of him NAILING something, but still (to my ears) being off-time and slow.

In 1991, this shit MIGHT HAVE flied in the band, because all of them were loaded. But GN'R have sold their souls, and have one lost shot at rock immortality to be the big shit in the business again, as a multi-million dollar corporation. An opportunity that KISS squandared, and to an extent Van Halen.

Guns isn't going to risk that with Steven Adler. Frank has proven he's sober, can show up, keep time, nail the fucking songs, the way they've... frankly... been played for the LAST DECADE.

Adler hasn't been in the band for 30 fucking years! Jesus Christ Steven, times fucking change man. The band has changed the way the song is played. Diehard fans don't like it. Oh well. Van Halen plays differently. Whitesnake plays songs a key or two lower to suit Coverdale's declining voice. Shit changes. And GN'R plays songs differently and faster.

Steven himself admits in the interview he didn't even recognize Brownstone when it was being played, because it's a completely different animal now.

Bottom line -- Adler couldn't pull the tracks off in 2016, the way Guns N' Roses plays the songs in 2000 fucking 16. Not 1990. Now. Axl imo, basically (like Stephen Pearcy did with Robbin Crosby in RATT after he had a drug-induced stoke and sobered up shortly before he died), that having Steven out for "a couple songs here and there" -- is okay. But anything more than that -- not gonna happen. 1/5 of the gross? I'll kill the mother fucker myself (in an Axl voice).

Adler couldn't hack it, and again took an olive branch and has let it go to his head, and instead of just being grateful that they were willing to fly him out to these locations, takes it as "Frank's my buddy" to "why is Frank here, I can do this"

No you can't. And just because you nail YCBM & Civil War in ONE TAKE, doesn't mean you'll last for another two hours.

There's a reason Peter Criss isn't in KISS anymore either.

Again...


This is why Axl stayed galaxies away from this clown for years. He's got what we've discovered in the past year as "BBS" -- Bobby Blotzer Syndrome. Maybe people haven't paid attention to the 2016 disaster of "Bobby Blotzer's RATT", but it's basically if Adler toured Adler today as Guns N' Roses. Bullshit, obviously. The least talented member, touring as the band. Well Blotzer's experiment is done, and Adler is still living in denial with his syndrome.

So like Blotzer before him, let's explain to Steven the problem -- you are WAY WAY WAY more important IN YOUR MIND than you actually are to Guns N' Roses.

"The fans want the original 5"

NO THEY FUCKING DON'T. Guns N' Roses has sold out stadiums WORLD FUCKING WIDE, with Axl, Slash & Duff and no one else that anyone knows is in the band. Most casuals don't even know Duff. They just know the big two of Axl & Slash. Most casuals don't even recognize the majority of the setlist. I was at the fucking show, when Duff was introduced -- it got a mild reaction from the audience. Dizzy got virtually an equal reaction when Axl introduced the band.

Know who got the big pops? Axl & Slash. No... one... else.


Live with it. Accept it. Be happy with it. And be thankful that they're willing to have you over every so often. You're such a fuck up, you're un-insurable. Period. That's not bullshit, that's a fact of life. Take the hint. Why do you keep sucking their dick, if it's obvious they don't want you back. Move on. Be thankful, stay in touch with Slash & Duff, maybe you'll be back out there.

YOU - ARE - NOT - THE - DRUMMER - OF - GUNS - N - ROSES

Frank Ferrer IS and has been since 2006. Anybody that wishes him OUT, is a fucking clueless moron, because that same moron is the one that is gonna piss and moan when GN'R has to cancel their tour and their show, because jackass got found in his hotel room with an 8-ball and dead hooker. Frank is there - to avoid this.

It is what it is. If "GN'R is dead; it's not a real reunion". Fine. Don't listen to it. I'm not interested without new music. I'm kinda over this tour. But all the best.


But this Adler fucker. I'm over this shit. Fuck this clown. You had your moment 30 years ago. All you had to do is stay the fuck away from needles and pipes. That's it. And you MADE YOUR CHOICE.

You wanted drugs, rather than fame and more money.


Now live with it.

I don't think Adler necessarily deserves to be on the tour but gimme a fuckin' break if you don't think they shouldn't dig into the real groove of AFD tracks and play them as intended.

#42 Re: Guns N' Roses » Nightrain Official Site » 439 weeks ago

As far as anything goes, I joined Nightrain in November mostly to sign up for early tickets and never even got the lanyard or shirt...

#43 Re: Guns N' Roses » European Tour 2017 Thread » 445 weeks ago

Does anyone know how long it takes to get your Nightrain membership shit shipped? I'm 10 days in and still no e-mail or anything about the shirt shipping.

#44 Re: Guns N' Roses » European Tour 2017 Thread » 446 weeks ago

I got my ticket to the Regina show, just as in 2010. They're playing the new football field here and me and the boys are ready...

... While "hardcores" cry like little bitches with skinned knees because they're playing Knockin' on Heaven's Door!

#45 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 450 weeks ago

James Lofton wrote:

THis doesn't fly anymore. Actually, it never did. You cant possibly believe that you are describing more than half the country with a straight face.

Dems are going to need new and much less offensive talking points. Also need to learn the lessons from this election.

What other logic could I construct for voting for a proven, essentially admitted, racist lunatic? That they were well educated, sane people voting for what could ever possibly be conceived as positive change? Voting for change isn't productive if you vote for hate. Cutting your nose off to spite your face...

I don't give two shits about Hillary, but I can read between the lines.

#46 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 450 weeks ago

buzzsaw wrote:

You're implying she cared about someone other than herself, which is ridiculous.  She was all about her and her ego isn't any smaller just because she's a woman.  You think he won based on HS dropouts?  You keep telling yourself that.  She inspired nobody.  She couldn't get support from Bernie's people.

When the wall goes up, I'll say you're right.

#47 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 450 weeks ago

I don't think making zero sense, catering to xenophobes and telling dumb people what they want to hear is a great campaign, merely dishonesty that morons chose to believe. Now, when Trump fails to do any of the things he promises, racist white people will just get even more pissed off and enraged and continue to direct their fury at the same they did here. Because THEY can't be wrong, right?

Democrats have their issues, without question, but using ego, power and celebrity to become president without any honesty or forward thinking isn't exactly groundbreaking campaigning. If anyone thinks Trump is gonna be thinking about anything but jerking off all over himself stroking his own ego that he gets to be the most powerful person in the world, you're nuts. How in God's name can anyone think this man actually cares about anyone? He just said what he had to say to convince some people who never made it through high school to flip.

#48 Re: Guns N' Roses » Welcome to My Jungle by Craig Duswalt » 457 weeks ago

Can anyone tell the Axl moth story that's read the book? I fucking hate moths. Bugs don't creep me out nearly as much as they used to, but moths are still the ugliest fucking things that ever find their way inside.

Any other book stories would be appreciated as well!

#49 Re: Guns N' Roses » Izzy tweet about Axl and Duff interview » 458 weeks ago

You don't have to be all about money to be against playing for free. Just because he doesn't care about money doesn't mean he should play for fuck all to appease Axl and hardcore idiot fans.

#50 Re: Guns N' Roses » San Diego » 460 weeks ago

tejastech08 wrote:
Brett wrote:

It would be ridiculous for Angus to can AC/DC when Axl obviously wants on board in the worst of ways.

I disagree. Cliff is retiring. Angus is the last guy left and I wouldn't blame him if he decides to retire the AC/DC name.

We'll just have to see. I personally don't know after all the shit that's hit AC/DC over the years he'd give up now when he has a kick ass band right at his fingertips sans a bass player. Angus is only 61 and just a little guy, he'll probably live to be 100. Brian is 68 and Cliff is 66. I think Angus has a lot more in the tank and canning the name just means less money for the brand he owns. If new AC/DC didn't meet his standards, maybe, but I think he's very happy with the showing being played for fans. At least, I hope he is.

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