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#41 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General and Monsters » 86 weeks ago
Bird (the guy who bought the locker) made up all that shit about having more Village discs with stuff like Oklahoma & Zodiac with vocals because he didn't want people to know everything he had had been leaked. Rick swore up and down that Bird had all these unleaked tracks (like Dragon, whatever the fuck that was supposed to be) but when pressed if he had actually heard any of this stuff to verify it he didn't answer, which answers the question itself imo.
#42 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General and Monsters » 86 weeks ago
Was just reminded of that pathetic incident where Axl sent DJ Ashba a platinum award for CD. Not only did he have no credits, he didn't even appear on the record like BBF and Frank.
#43 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General and Monsters » 86 weeks ago
jimmythegent wrote:Anyone hear any parts of what they played instrumentally in soundchecks recently that was speculated to be the general ?(I don't)
How do we even know that this is indeed the general?
Does it even match with the Evader / Vienna File?
Where is the Beltrami intro? Where are the soundcheck parts?
Monsters is the song from the Vienna clip that Evader interpreted. Both The General and Monsters have pieces of the intro music played in 2006-2010.
#44 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General and Monsters » 86 weeks ago
James wrote:dave-gnfnr wrote:the best thing about you and this forum is it was the only true forum for the fans that didn't kiss the bands or TBs butt for speical perks. Its why this is the only GNR forum I go to anymore.
One of the reasons I felt ok taking the hard stance I did is because I knew the Axl from our youth would have respected it. Maybe he did respect it in 2006-8.
He joined HTGTH, mygnr, CD.com and Evo in 2008 for chats.
Guess which one he didn't actually post on?
It pissed people off but it was a nice gesture. He didn't have to sign up at all. Could have ignored us like he did those other forums like newgnr, GNRsource, gnfnr, etc.
When the official GNR site posted the chat transcripts, they linked to the transcripts posted here instead of the others.
James, what happened to the gnfr forum?
Not sure what the complete story is, but it's talked about here: https://www.badapplesforum.com/index.ph … our-forum/
#45 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General and Monsters » 86 weeks ago
The orchestra sting on "The General" is the bridge, not the intro like I suspected. I'm not sure it works for the beginning of the bridge but the ending of the bridge is pretty satisfactory.
If "Monsters" is "Soul Monster", someone try to listen for Robin's SRV solo Axl mentioned.
Edit: It could be the solo 2:00-2:15 but I'm no SRV expert
Axl never said nor implied that Soul Monster was the song with the SRV solo. Forum myth.
#46 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General and Monsters » 86 weeks ago
Once again, any similarities between Evaders / Vienna's The General and this one?
The Evader/Vienna General is Monsters. The music and melodies are pretty close, lyrics not at all.
#47 Re: Guns N' Roses » Me And My Elvis Instrumental Leak (2019) » 86 weeks ago
Okay, we need to update whispers
Still gonna say Seven will be closer to Me and My Elvis than Monsters. Pretty positive it’s Soul Monster
Nevermind. Think I misread this.
#48 Re: Guns N' Roses » Me And My Elvis Instrumental Leak (2019) » 86 weeks ago
^^ this. Look at Shacklers, that was like three Bucket songs melded together. Just looked Seven up on whispers and can’t find where Brain said he wrote it? I know Marco wrote a guitar line for it when it came to him in 03
From the AFD podcast 2019: "It’s funny because how ‘The General’ came about was we were supposed to, you know, this was like building up to that show. Everybody was like “Hey if anybody has songs or shit you can bring them in. So that song, ‘The General’ was a song that from when [inaudible] and [inaudible] and I, when I wasn’t doing Guns stuff would just jam in my living room type of thing. I had a pro tool setup, we were jamming, we were trying to come up with songs for Guns and we had this song called, well we called it ‘The General’ because we were eating general’s chicken. Yet, when I turned it in to Axl [Rose] he thought it was called ‘The General’ because I was making fun of Tommy [Stinson] and Tommy was kind of the band MD, he was the musical director when we would have rehearsals and Axl thought i was kind of poking fun at Tommy like a general. Like sort of a ‘hey we’re rehearsing at this time’ and that kind of shit. I was like ‘no dude, it’s because we ate general’s chicken.
Yeah, it’s funny because you said ‘The General’ and it all comes back around because we were writing all these songs to try and turn in. Xtract is sort of this old school DJ type, he’s a bass player but he loves old school break beats and you know, cratedigger type of guy. So, the shit we were putting together was crazy. We were going ‘OK what sample should we find for Axl? Well he’s sort of like Julius Ceasar’ so we were trying to sample stuff that reflected that. We were looking for old school, crazy shit and I think we sampled Ben-Hur, chopped it up, cut it up and that became a jam, I think we called it ‘Seven’."
#49 Re: Guns N' Roses » Me And My Elvis Instrumental Leak (2019) » 86 weeks ago
AgesOfTheIce wrote:Elvis as Seven doesn't make any sense to me. Elvis was mixed and ready to go in March 2000. Brain mentioned writing Seven with Xtract alongside The General before HOB 2001.
The issue with looking at everything in chronological order...and based on 15-20 year old comments...is the fact they clearly started cannibalizing their own songs at some point.
When listening to Eye On You did you think it would get Axl "flown in" to Hard School 20 years later?
Now we've got The General and whatever anyone thinks Monsters is as one song.
For all we know, Me and My Elvis had 5 seconds "flown in" to Circus Maximus and that's Seven.
They only had so many songs to work with. When nothing new gets created past a certain point and you still haven't finished it, it's gonna turn into the Donner party.
Yeah, it's technically possible but there's no reason to think that, other than desperately hoping Axl didn't ditch the Elvis instrumental.
#50 Re: Guns N' Roses » Me And My Elvis Instrumental Leak (2019) » 86 weeks ago
Elvis as Seven doesn't make any sense to me. Elvis was mixed and ready to go in March 2000. Brain mentioned writing Seven with Xtract alongside The General before HOB 2001.
