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#41 Re: Guns N' Roses » Izzy » 866 weeks ago
Hey Axlin08, I agree completely with you about Izzy being more irreplaceable than Slash, and here's why
Izzy is an incredible songwriter. He's a good guitarist, but a GREAT songwriter
Slash's tone is beautiful, and his feel and emotion are things that can't be taught. But he's not a great or inspired songwriter. He's the type of guy who is a monster if teamed up with great songwriters, but on his own is just an above average hard rock guitarist who can rip great solos when he feels like it
Bucket was more than capable of filling Slash's shoes. But nobody ever replaced Izzy. Seriously, listen to any Izzy Stradlin solo album. Like A Dog sounds way more like AFD than anything that Slash has done since leaving Guns. Slash wrote some great shit. Coma, Locomotive are both in my top 5 GnR songs ever. But guess what? If Soothsayer had Axl singing over it, it would be right in the same neighborhood. But to me, the musical sound of old GnR resides with Izzy, and there's no way you can convince me otherwise based upon solo records since that time
#42 Re: Guns N' Roses » Izzy » 866 weeks ago
Axlin08 wrote:VR is the only project that Slash got a platinum album
It's Five O'Clock Somewhere & Contraband both went platinum.
Neither Snakepit album even sniffed platinum
Slash claims it went platinum on his website, but it never even went gold according to the RIAA. I think I'll side with the RIAA in this argument
The thing opened at #70 on the Billboard albums charts and never climbed. So people should put this nonsense to bed right now. The album didn't even come close to platinum regardless of what Slash says
#43 Re: Guns N' Roses » BETTER: second single CONFIRMED » 866 weeks ago
I completely hear you. People limiting themselves strictly to rock may think CD is more "groundbreaking" or brilliant musically than it really is
It's definitely not like they're doing anything brand new or revolutionizing music. For a rock album it's really intricate and has complex arrangements but at the end of the day it's still "just" a mainstream rock record
But, I will say that CD is probably unique from any other album ever made in terms of the styles on album (not that nobody has ever combined as many styles on one album, just to say that there's probably no other album out there that's quite like CD as a whole). I mean having songs like Shackler's Revenge and This I Love on the same album, even if you hated both of those songs, you would have to admire the sheer audacity of it
To me, I think Better will be a hit because it is vintage GnR. Not that it sounds like old GnR, but it's maybe the one song where they threw 15 different influences into a blender, poured it out, and it came out almost perfectly. Industrial-pop-rock-progressive-metal with a outerspace R2D2 tapping, shred solos, and a blues solo that somehow comes together in a coherent piece of music that is insanely catchy. To me "Better" is the only song on the album that justifies the absurd amount of time spent on it. But even Better was done back in 2001. That alone is proof that the delay had more to do with pride, mental health and behind the scenes power plays than the music itself. I really think Better has the potential to be a huge, huge smash hit
#44 Re: Guns N' Roses » BETTER: second single CONFIRMED » 866 weeks ago
Axlin08 wrote:The entire album is better than 99% of what's out there.
Take the weakest track (in your opinion) from the album, and I guarantee you it's fucking Coma, compared to what's out there.
I disagree, especially with the 99% figure.
Obviously I'm a huge GNR fan and think this album has some killer tracks, but its not even my favorite album this year. That award goes to Santogold, and this Goldfrapp album is amazing and it could actually knock CD out of the second spot. Only reason it cant at this point is simply because I've only been listening to it for less than a week.
If i put This I Love up against Cologne Cerrone Houdini, This I Love loses by a large margin. Hell, the Alanis track Not As We could give This I Love a run for its money.
I realize music is subjective and we all have our own tastes, but there have been quite a few good albums this year to where CD isn't the guaranteed masterpiece over all others.
Am I the only one that doesn't like Better all that much?
We've all been burnt out on the track two years ago. The song could potentially be GNR's 'Vertigo', so we should let Joe Blow decide the fate of the track.
On topic, I think Better would be a huge hit on rock radio. I think this album also has two songs that would be very successful on mainstream radio but not rock radio, those being If The World and This I Love.
Slightly off topic, I can't really compare GnR to Santogold or Goldfrapp. I've heard that Santogold album and it's cool but it's not really my thing. Not to say I don't like it, but it's not the type of album that I personally would listen to over and over again. Cologne Cerrone Houdini sounds like a 70's era Elton John-Paul Buckmaster track, minus the piano, with a girl singing. It's a great sounding song but it's nothing like anything on CD. Aside from Robin's solo, the music on This I Love sounds like it could've been written 200 years ago
I don't know man, CD is just a big, monstrous, over the top mainstream rock album, I've been starving for an album like this for years. This is some 70's Queen shit, true rock extravagance and excess. Maybe it's just because this type of music has been dead on the mainstream level for so long but there's really nothing else quite like the new GnR out there. Sure, each song has elements of other bands' sounds, but as a collective there's nothing quite like this
CD to me is like Queen II, circa 2008. It may be shamelessly over the top and overdramatic, but in a great way. It's an audacious album
#45 Re: Guns N' Roses » Is there a song where Axl sings about Slash? Per Younggunner yes » 867 weeks ago
The Bucket Man can do any type of solo
His solo in Sorry is pure Bucket, fits the song perfectly. But it sounds like a David Gilmour solo. His epic solo is on TWAT. I wish he would've done This I Love because there he could've let it rip on a real soaring, epic level
This song really shows how Axl has evolved. The lyrics are vindictive and bitter but in the UYI days he would've done it over a Perfect Crime or Don't Damn Me type of riff. Here he sounds wicked but on a subdued musical track
#46 Re: Guns N' Roses » "Guns N' Roses: Is It All Over? Does Anyone Care?" » 867 weeks ago
Hey, Wink might be overtly positive and a little too confrontational at times
But he's no more of a dick than many of the guys who are complete, over the top dicks who hate Axl and get a free pass and have for years
#47 Re: Guns N' Roses » "Guns N' Roses: Is It All Over? Does Anyone Care?" » 867 weeks ago
CD is not the kind of single that will. That said, it's 103 on the Hot 100 after two days of release as a digital single. It'll crack the Top 100 by next week
Songs like Better, Scraped, The Blues, TIL, etc all have a chance to crossover
But there's nothing as blatantly commercial as Nickelback or Green Day. Or, for that matter, Sorry by Buckcherry.
The poppy ballads are pretty long and don't have the classic type of hooks, and the poppiest rocks song still contain parts that might be too heavy to break into the top 20-30 category
That said, I think The Blues or TIL could be a big pop hit. But I can't think of a rock song as energetic as SCOM breaking the upper reaches of the Hot 100 in the past couple of years. They've always been slower paced ballads with very, very, very commercial hooks
#48 Re: Guns N' Roses » "Guns N' Roses: Is It All Over? Does Anyone Care?" » 867 weeks ago
LOL@ppl arguing that CD is a more successful single than SCOM! Not even close, SCOM was a crossover success and was a pop smash.ChiDem the single is gonna get nowhere near the top of the pop charts with the likes of Kanye,Britney,etc.That is why i think the video will be for Better/Blues/or something that has a chance of crossing over.Motley Crue had a hit with SOLA on rock radio, Offspring has had a huge radio hit with YGGFK and that has not translated to huge album sales.You people are kidding yourselves if you think ChiDem is on the level with SCOM but thanks for the laughs.
Nobody is saying that CD is better, or bigger, than SCOM
Radio has changed a lot since those days
My only point was that to ignore the success of CD just to support your own views is flat out stupid. The facts are that CD is one of the most successful GnR singles on ROCK radio in GnR history
Rock songs do not get played on pop radio the way they did prior to the emergence of hip hop as the pre-eminent form of pop music. So it's hard to compare. But anyone who dismisses the success of CD is just doing it because acknowledging that CD has done well wouldn't fit their sad little agenda, their illogical little theories that have been crumbling for the past couple of months
They would look a lot less foolish just to admit they are wrong now, rather than keep arguing points that never had much validity but that now have been completely dismantled
#49 Re: Guns N' Roses » "Guns N' Roses: Is It All Over? Does Anyone Care?" » 867 weeks ago
shotgunblues1978 wrote:Bono wrote:Amazing post Sic. I agree with Gunslinger in that's it's one of the best posts I've ever seen on a Gn'R forum. To all of you saying it's a "doom and gloom" post, get off it. Its' a 100% reality filled post. The arguement that the single is doing "well" is so weak. Gn'R fans are happy with a song charting at 7th or 10th or whatever on rock charts only? It's not the attitude Gn'R fans used to have.
Guess what? CD has charted higher on the rock charts than Sweet Child, Jungle, and Paradise City ever did
No offense but you've posted completely delusional theories in the past that ignored everything from common sense to the reality of the personalities involved
The single doing well isn't a "weak" argument. It's actually a verifiable fact. The only GnR singles in the past that have charted that high in the past are YCBM, Don't Cry and Civil War
So downplay all you want, bottom line is that yes, the single has done well, despite being one of the less commercially friendly tracks on the album.
Yes, people know the album is coming out.
No, CD did not get delayed until Slash and Co. came and re-recorded all the tracks.
No, there is no reunion in sight.
WTF are you talking about? Sweet Child was #1, that's right #1, on the entire Billboard Hot 100, which is the ultimate chart of charts. It was the most popular song of 1988. Also, both Jungle and Paradise City reached the Top 10 on the Billboard Hot 100. CD hasn't even cracked the top 100 so far. Then again, it was not released for purchase until a few days ago. The radio spins alone are not enough to gain huge popularity on the charts.
Billboard had different calculations back then. Sweet Child hit higher on the pop charts but its peak on the rock charts was #7
Comparing CD to Sweet Child in a pop sense is flat out retarded. But on the rock stations, bottom line, fact, CD is higher than Sweet Child ever made it.
#50 Re: Guns N' Roses » "Guns N' Roses: Is It All Over? Does Anyone Care?" » 867 weeks ago
Amazing post Sic. I agree with Gunslinger in that's it's one of the best posts I've ever seen on a Gn'R forum. To all of you saying it's a "doom and gloom" post, get off it. Its' a 100% reality filled post. The arguement that the single is doing "well" is so weak. Gn'R fans are happy with a song charting at 7th or 10th or whatever on rock charts only? It's not the attitude Gn'R fans used to have.
Guess what? CD has charted higher on the rock charts than Sweet Child, Jungle, and Paradise City ever did
No offense but you've posted completely delusional theories in the past that ignored everything from common sense to the reality of the personalities involved
The single doing well isn't a "weak" argument. It's actually a verifiable fact. The only GnR singles in the past that have charted that high in the past are YCBM, Don't Cry and Civil War
So downplay all you want, bottom line is that yes, the single has done well, despite being one of the less commercially friendly tracks on the album.
Yes, people know the album is coming out.
No, CD did not get delayed until Slash and Co. came and re-recorded all the tracks.
No, there is no reunion in sight.
