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#41 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General and Monsters » 115 weeks ago

younggunner wrote:

supposedly the final mix has been leaked. I cant find it though

Where have you heard this? There was a youtube clip that sounded better than the links I downloaded from here, but not sure if it was just a better quality rather than a better mix. But it got taken down.

#42 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General confirmed next » 115 weeks ago

younggunner wrote:

Mygnr is in full meltdown mode. Mad funny

As is Twitter. People are raging and they're tagging everyone in, band members, management, band members' wives etc. They're all getting shot down.

And still they don't acknowledge it. Situations like this where a bit of honesty could come into play would and work wonders and they just sit there and ignore it completely. Which makes me think it's just Axl and his weirdness having a moment and pulling the release because he's not ready for it. Just make a statement and fess up on why it's going to be another 6/7 weeks before it's out. Or be brave enough to admit you've pulled it and state why. The smoke and mirrors and mystery might have been cool and good marketing at some points in the bands' history, but not now when they're all retirement age and annoying people for the fun of it isn't really what they should be doing.

#43 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General confirmed next » 115 weeks ago

Link31 wrote:

Haven't been impressed with these songs lately, except maybe "Perhaps". Since The General is new to us, it will be the first song we can't say we liked the demo better. So, That's a plus.

Unless someone leaks it, we're not going to hear it. It's not coming out in December either.

#44 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General confirmed next » 115 weeks ago

Beyond disappointing from them again. I'm with James on this, I think the reason is that they've sold so few copies that they've not even met the initial quota needed to actually make it. It's so telling that there are no pictures of the vinyl anywhere, it clearly hasn't been made.

I'd be lying if I said I was expecting the release to actually happen. It seemed too good to be true and it is. There's no way they're going to release this in December either. The bit they inserted about the orders being automatically cancelled unless you confirm you don't want it to be says it all. They're not releasing it anymore and they want as many as possible to cancel their orders so there are fewer angry people when they do that.

The autistic weirdness the band (Axl) has over actually releasing music is so tiring now. Just get the best version of everything you've done and stick it in a Dropbox folder and don't worry about it anymore, and retire. There is no chance of them actually releasing an album before one of them dies.

And if anyone is hoarding a version of The General that in anyway listenable, or any other songs for that matter, now is the time to release it all. The band deserve it.

#45 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General confirmed next » 116 weeks ago

It's the complete lack of any sort of professionalism about the delay that is infuriating. This is one of the biggest bands in the world, turning over many millions a year. Their record label is huge and yet they allow behaviour like this.

Delays can happen, things outside of your control can happen. Whether it's production, logistics or licencing issues etc. It's how you respond to that and stage manage the expectations that can shape how you are judged. If they knew there was going to be a delay, just come out and update people, particularly those who placed an order.

Instead we just get radio silence and it becomes very hard to ignore the possibility this is all related to one man and his stubbornness.

#46 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General confirmed next » 116 weeks ago

polluxlm wrote:

"Not happening" is the feeling I'm getting here.

Very much feels like it doesn't it. It kind of felt inevitable that something would happen with this. I thought it might be that they'd release it on digital and piss off all the people who had specifically bought it on vinyl just to hear The General. But for so much news from release date delays from a week to two months to 'indefinite' and them not say anything is just classic GNR. No doubt there will be some kind of excuse rolled out in a few weeks about how the plastic needed was held hostage by Greta Thunberg.

If they have messed this up, offer people a refund and release it digitally. People are over the band's incompetence now.

#47 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General confirmed next » 116 weeks ago

I got forwarded this, presumably from another forum:

https://radiorock.it/guns-n-roses-riman … 9kCe660psk


For those who cannot translate from Italian, it says that the 7" vinyl of "Perhaps" and thus "The General" will be postponed until a date to be determined, and "The General" will not be available for download load/streaming.

This is the same Italian page that had given the news about the postponement of "Perhaps."

Does anyone know anything about this?

I don't know if it is reliable.

Indefinite delay. That sounds like GNR smile

If this is all just to prevent it 'leaking' it's beyond pathetic. Why they feel they need to lockdown a song they're not even going to release digitally I don't know. It seems someone in the band still thinks it's 1996. Just let the vinyl ship to those that have ordered it, if there aren't many orders just release those that have ordered it. If there are loads more than they've pressed, release them on a first come first served basis. Just stop the endless messing around and attempts to control something that just doesn't need to be controlled.

#48 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General confirmed next » 117 weeks ago

I keep expecting to log on everyday and see a post that it's finally leaked. I've no idea how they've managed to keep it under lock and key for this long. There must be so many copies of it floating about in transit by now to be got ready for packaging and dispatch to the customers? How has one of those not slipped the net? How has a record company exec not been given a sample and left it somewhere?

When it does finally drop, someone send me a PM with the link.

#49 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General confirmed next » 119 weeks ago

Blackstar wrote:

New Tommy Stinson interview (he has said this before):

When talk turns to the atmosphere around the band around the 2008 release of Chinese Democracy, which emerged some 17 years on from the band's last original albums, 1991's Use Your Illusion I and II, Stinson tells Stocks that he looks on the period fondly, describing it as "a crazy, beautiful mess."

"That Jimmy Iovine pulled that record out of Axl's hands at the fucking 11.30th hour is the only disappointing part of that," he adds. "I don't know if it would have changed anything about the public's view of it, the only thing it would have changed was Axl's view of it. He was this close to being able to sign off on that fucking thing, and they pulled it just before he was completely ready to be going 'I'm done with it', it was just a little too quick on that. That's unfortunate. But all things considered, we made a great record."

https://www.loudersound.com/news/guns-n … -punk-rock

They just needed a little bit of patience. Funny that after taking so long, they still needed more time.

I agree with the decision to pull it though, at least it exists now and they could have closed the chapter and moved on. If they hadn't done that, it still wouldn't be out now.

#50 Re: Guns N' Roses » The next GNR album: Current known state of songs » 121 weeks ago

The absolute best thing to do with this mess and the band in general is to put out an album, as quickly as humanly possible titled "Chinese leftovers" with a picture of half eaten Chinese meals on the cover. Just throw out the complete (ish) songs as a numbered album, then put everything (And I mean everything) else there is in a folder on the album and let the fans have at it. Then everyone gets what they want. Buckethead fans get every solo he worked on, Brian May fans get their versions and we can finally hear all the classic tracks like Oklahoma, The General, State of Grace, Soul Monster, Atlas Shrugged, Thyme etc. Any of the actual songs good enough to be played live can be added to the playlist for the never ending tour. This policy of dripping out the old material at such a slow rate is as excrutiating as the process of waiting for the album to be released was in the first place.

The band themselves can them close that chapter and move on, creating a new album that releases within the next 6 months.

And the Chinese material is then permanently deleted so Axl can no longer work on it. We don't need a 2038 remix of Silkworms.

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