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#501 Re: Guns N' Roses » melissa & brain perform sorry remix at nba halftime show » 408 weeks ago
The best part was the announcer's delivery. It sounds so goofy.
The "We Will Rock You" / "If The World" remix is the kind of terrible garbage EDM pump-up music that is played at basketball halftime shows so at least that halfway fit.
I miss Pitman.
#502 Re: Guns N' Roses » LEAKS THREAD » 408 weeks ago
I listened to the Boston promo again.
It'd be interesting to hear that version of Madagascar.
I still want the version of Chinese with the synth intro that Zoot worked on.
#503 Re: Guns N' Roses » LEAKS THREAD » 408 weeks ago
#504 Re: Guns N' Roses » LEAKS THREAD » 408 weeks ago
OMG was mixed and mastered on Beavan's watch. He was certainly a capable enough producer to sew things up. And RTB was likely equally marooned before Tom Zutaut came aboard in 2001.
Very true, it just seems of a clear higher quality then everything else. Both in quality and in enthusiasm. And just a demo to boot. 
The 'new' songs Tommy talked about could've been stuff like Better. Definite Bucket/Brain -era, without as much as a whiff of Paul Tobias.
Yeah. It would seem logical it's that and stuff we haven't heard.
I'm not too sure Tommy is about to sing the praises of Shacklers, Scraped, or Silkworms.
I guess the thought was that everything else would probably date back to 1999 or earlier, with multiple versions already in existence.
Anyway, onwards and upwards.
#505 Re: Guns N' Roses » LEAKS THREAD » 408 weeks ago
Roy Thomas Baker gets a lot of shit around here but his work is the only time the project reached a professional level of quality. If you compare any of these early leaks to Oh My God, they seem rough, patchwork, and amateurish. The Piazza leaks were certainly what you'd come to expect.
I do wonder about Tommy's quotes in 2004.
I wanted to hear the things I hadn't heard yet. Some of the stuff had been done a while ago and hadn't changed much; I didn't really bother with that.
...But I wanted to hear all the new stuff and I heard about six things that I hadn't heard finished yet, that were really mind-blowing.(Tommy, Chart Attack, 09/15/04)
We've only heard is all incremental changes, swapping in-and-out band members, and so forth. Yet Tommy's comments here and around here talk about new songs being done and the like. We've heard precious little of those. I think there being so many iterations of these tracks lends credence to the theory that these were the A-list songs.
#506 Re: Guns N' Roses » LEAKS THREAD » 408 weeks ago
I was just using the colloquial term.
I think the early 2000 date is probably on point.
It was "just written" by October 1999 and a studio version was already done by January 2001 with Freese/Tobias(?) after Rio.
It's of a nicer vintage than the rough 2000 version of There Was A Time so one'd suspect after that before Roy got going in full.
#507 Re: Guns N' Roses » LEAKS THREAD » 408 weeks ago
I took a quick look at the spectral and waveforms, it's a much more compressed mix with lower dynamic range.
In terms of dynamic range, it's 2007 > 2001 > 2008.
The peaks are pretty cut off too.
#508 Re: Guns N' Roses » LEAKS THREAD » 408 weeks ago
If you take the 2001 date at face value that would mean Josh Freese was still featured on drums not Brain and Buckethead was only half-integrated.
It's unsurprising there would be a shoe box full of different versions but we have 1999, 2000, and presumably at some time, a 2001 version of There Was A Time still featuring Robin on lead throughout the whole thing.
It brings the spirit of the times thing into question a little bit and makes you wonder about chronology.
I look forward to the other stuff for further comparisons.
#509 Re: The Sunset Strip » Mindhunter » 408 weeks ago
I'm a big fan of David Fincher.
I thought this was entertaining but something like Zodiac Lite and I lost my enthusiasm half way through.
It's worth a watch though for sure.
#510 Re: Guns N' Roses » LEAKS THREAD » 408 weeks ago
I'm hardly an expert on anything music but I don't hear Brain's cymbal crashes when the chorus kicks in at 1:10.
Brain does indeed have a deeper groove and his kick out back to the second verse is drawn out whereas this is back to business.
"[Baker] was coming from Queen, The Cars, Journey, more the rock thing. He said we had to go re-record the drums because they sounded very industrial." (Brain, MusicRadar, 10/22/12)
Plot is thicc.
