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#511 Re: Guns N' Roses » Same Old, Same Old » 494 weeks ago
dave-gnfnr wrote:sp1at wrote:You need to think a little outside the box. If you tie other people into the reunion, it creates a mess.
AEG are really good at what they do. The band have some artistic freedom as to who appears. It can also be a surprise as to who appears.
It is the right card to play
You don't need to think outside the box. Its cut and dry. What do you mean it can be a surprise who appears that is just dumb. You officially announce who is in the reunion, then if Izzy or Matt/Steven will be at any of the shows. Its a joke that Slash and Duff had to announce it on their own . Its not being handled well at all.
tejastech08 wrote:Eagles, Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin are all bigger reunions than this. It's not like the publicity machine matters much for a festival gig. Coachella will sell out no matter who is on the bill and no matter how much GN'R chooses to hype it.
I should have said one of the biggest reunions of all time but the GNR reunion is every bit as big as those, since people have been asking for this reunion for over 10 years.
It also does not matter if coachelle is going to sell out regardless. That is irreverent. This is about guns n roses having a reunion which is supposed to be a huge deal and its already being mishandled badly. They are already doing everything wrong.
faldor wrote:Yeah, the Kimmel cancellation aside I think they've handled things beautifully so far. Slash and Duff have been confirmed. That's really all you need to know. Izzy and Steven will probably be involved in some way, but not full time. Dizzy, Chris, Frank, and Richard are most likely involved too. The only mystery is if they choose to go with 3 guitarists or 2.
As for the rest of the tour. I have no problem with them taking their time on that announcement. The Kimmel thing came a bit prematurely it would seem. If concert dates were to leak and then they turn out to be wrong, that would cause chaos. Make sure all your ducks are in a row before the big reveal. A little anticipation and mystery isn't a bad thing. I mean we're THIS close, let's not get too picky.
Like I said Slash and Duff and to confirm themselves. That is not handling it well. That is a joke. The announcement should have been made all at the same time and by one source. But stuff on the reunion is coming out little by little. Its being badly managed.
You dont have to announce the tour yet but you should have a official announcement about the full band and the plans. you don't need specific dates for the stadium tour.
They just need to say there will be a US stadium tour to follow but more on that later. You shouldn't have had Slash and Duff confirming on FB own their own they are now back in the band officially.
There was a Coachella press release and a Guns N' Roses press release.
There has been no official guns n roses announcement about the reunion nor who is in the full band.
Slash and Duff confirmed they in GNR again, GNR didnt do it first.
Casuals still have no clue what is going on because there is no real news. My friends still ask me who is in the band and what is going on because there is no full official announcement. We just know the Axl, Slash and Duff are playing coachelle. And like I said Slash and Duff had to announcement it themselves that they were in the band.
There is still nothing on gunsnroses.com or GNR FB page about Slash and Duff being back in the band.
#512 Re: Guns N' Roses » Same Old, Same Old » 494 weeks ago
dave-gnfnr wrote:I fucked up the quotes in the above post LOL hopefully you can follow
btw
if I was manager what I would have done was and Axl, Slash and Duff appear on Kimmel to announce the reunion, talk about how it came about, them getting back tougher, then go to the stage with the rest of the touring band (probably Frank, Dizzy, Chris and Fortus) then play two songs. WTTJ and PC.
That is what they should have done.
That would have been fun, but it isn't a prerequisite for a successful reunion.
There is a lot of time to generate interest and drama. Suspense generated over the line up/ set list/ upcoming shows will only fuel the interest at this point.
I hope there is a new song or two in the works. Or even a studio version of a couple VR/Slash solo/ nu-Guns songs with Axl/Duff/Slash together.
Maybe we can finally hear Sympathy for the Devil live?
Wasn't Sympathy for the Devil the song that broke up the band. They may want to stay away from that one lol.
#513 Re: Guns N' Roses » Same Old, Same Old » 494 weeks ago
I fucked up the quotes in the above post LOL hopefully you can follow
btw
if I was manager what I would have done was and Axl, Slash and Duff appear on Kimmel to announce the reunion, talk about how it came about, them getting back tougher, then go to the stage with the rest of the touring band (probably Frank, Dizzy, Chris and Fortus) then play two songs. WTTJ and PC.
That is what they should have done.
#514 Re: Guns N' Roses » Same Old, Same Old » 494 weeks ago
dave-gnfnr wrote:How are they doing well LOL
You have the biggest rock reunion of all time and we are getting barely anything. They are botching it from the start.
The full band should have announced the reunion on Kimmel then played a song.There should be complete news of the tour and who is in the band. WE still don't even know the full band yet. How is that even possible.
You need to think a little outside the box. If you tie other people into the reunion, it creates a mess.
AEG are really good at what they do. The band have some artistic freedom as to who appears. It can also be a surprise as to who appears.
It is the right card to play
You don't need to think outside the box. Its cut and dry. What do you mean it can be a surprise who appears that is just dumb. You officially announce who is in the reunion, then if Izzy or Matt/Steven will be at any of the shows. Its a joke that Slash and Duff had to announce it on their own . Its not being handled well at all.
dave-gnfnr wrote:You have the biggest rock reunion of all time
Eagles, Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin are all bigger reunions than this. It's not like the publicity machine matters much for a festival gig. Coachella will sell out no matter who is on the bill and no matter how much GN'R chooses to hype it.
I should have said one of the biggest reunions of all time but the GNR reunion is every bit as big as those, since people have been asking for this reunion for over 10 years.
It also does not matter if coachelle is going to sell out regardless. That is irreverent. This is about guns n roses having a reunion which is supposed to be a huge deal and its already being mishandled badly. They are already doing everything wrong.
sp1at wrote:dave-gnfnr wrote:There should be complete news of the tour and who is in the band. WE still don't even know the full band yet. How is that even possible .
You need to think a little outside the box. If you tie other people into the reunion, it creates a mess.
AEG are really good at what they do. The band have some artistic freedom as to who appears. It can also be a surprise as to who appears.
It is the right card to play
Yeah, the Kimmel cancellation aside I think they've handled things beautifully so far. Slash and Duff have been confirmed. That's really all you need to know. Izzy and Steven will probably be involved in some way, but not full time. Dizzy, Chris, Frank, and Richard are most likely involved too. The only mystery is if they choose to go with 3 guitarists or 2.
As for the rest of the tour. I have no problem with them taking their time on that announcement. The Kimmel thing came a bit prematurely it would seem. If concert dates were to leak and then they turn out to be wrong, that would cause chaos. Make sure all your ducks are in a row before the big reveal. A little anticipation and mystery isn't a bad thing. I mean we're THIS close, let's not get too picky.
Like I said Slash and Duff and to confirm themselves. That is not handling it well. That is a joke. The announcement should have been made all at the same time and by one source. But stuff on the reunion is coming out little by little. Its being badly managed.
You dont have to announce the tour yet but you should have a official announcement about the full band and the plans. you don't need specific dates for the stadium tour.
They just need to say there will be a US stadium tour to follow but more on that later. You shouldn't have had Slash and Duff confirming on FB own their own they are now back in the band officially.
#515 Re: Guns N' Roses » So... new music » 494 weeks ago
Good to see you again James, I personally think that This I Love didn't have a solo. At all.
I've always felt Robin's additional solo to This I Love was a late addition, and i've always been curious when it was added.
When I went back and remixed the song from the mogg's, and tuned the guitar down to being a backer to the orchestra, even with the original studio mix for TIL, the solo felt tacked on. The orchestra however flowed so organically with the song, like it was all written together.
I think Axl felt it was too Andrew Lloyd Webber, too Freddie Mercury, and panicked and feeling that every GN'R ballad needs a big guitar solo, called Robin in.
If any solo had to be on it, i'd rather have DJ's, but I was always curious was Richard wasn't used. Richard crushes them both on lead, and could've provided a nice Slash-touch to the song.
It's still bizarre how Robin was used on that song. And all that beating off to the solo by the Robinites got old. Never got it. Even for Robin, it kinda sucks as a solo. All DJ did was come in and repair the parts that didn't flow right. Duck taped it so to speak. DJ didn't fix it, he just made the song work live.
Buckethead did the original solo. then Robin re did it. that was one of the things that pissed BH off because when Robin came back he re did some of BHs solos.
I spoke to Patty the lady who did the harp on this I love, and she said when she worked on the song the solo on it was BHs.
#516 Re: Guns N' Roses » Same Old, Same Old » 494 weeks ago
dave-gnfnr wrote:Axl need a rea manager to get him in line, not team brazil who are just a bunch of hanger ons and yes people who are robbing Axl of his money.
They seem to be doing well and have been around for a long time
How are they doing well LOL
You have the biggest rock reunion of all time and we are getting barely anything. They are botching it from the start.
The full band should have announced the reunion on Kimmel then played a song.
There should be complete news of the tour and who is in the band. WE still don't even know the full band yet. How is that even possible .
#517 Re: Guns N' Roses » Same Old, Same Old » 494 weeks ago
Axl need a rea manager to get him in line, not team brazil who are just a bunch of hanger ons and yes people who are robbing Axl of his money.
#518 Re: Guns N' Roses » Axl in Jimmu Kimmel » 494 weeks ago
Its not for Fios in boston
#519 Re: Guns N' Roses » Eddie Trunk Thoughts on Reunion » 494 weeks ago
I wonder if Axl is still trying to get Izzy to join and that is why they are not announcing the full band yet. Maybe they want work out a few shows with him and they can announce those dates. I like Fortus so he is fine, way more than Gilby. I don't see the need for Dave, he has never been in guns n roses plus they don't need an extra guitar player. No way Slash is sharing his solos.
#520 Re: Guns N' Roses » Official Statement coming from Guns camp tonight. » 494 weeks ago
dave-gnfnr wrote:Smoking Guns wrote:I can see the studio now when Slash asks to record to tape and the band sans Duff is like "what"?!?! Slash is old school. GNR recorded new school. Shouldn't be an issue, but he can't just be rushed, the tone and all that shit needs to be organic and needs to be recorded his way or he will end up pissed like he was with VR's recordings. I guess he will do protools if he must to be a team player, but that isn't his style. I hope Mike Clink will do the new tracks.
You would just take the vocal tracks of the CD sessions and have slash and duff, write music to them. so what Axl had before on them wouldn't even matter. They would just need too hear the vocal melody Axl was using.
From what we know Axl has fallen in love with digital editing and what not. Piecing together tracks and parts of tracks. Adding effects etc. That's the way he likes to work and it gives him so many more possibilities than old school recording.
He's not giving that up imo. Not a chance. It's too powerful a tool, like scrapping your car for a horse. If new music is being worked on Slash will just have to accept that way of working.
If Axl wants to do that that is fine, but they should then go into the studio and play what Axl pieced together as a proper track so you don't get that clipping shit you got on CD where you could tell how it was cut and pasted together.