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#521 Re: Guns N' Roses » Breaking Down The Loot » 411 weeks ago

smile))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
you've just made my day.
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#522 Re: Guns N' Roses » When's Album? » 411 weeks ago

in my very humble opinion, there's just the nostalgia tour in 2017, possibly also a couple of more years. by that time they will become tired with all the thing and the whole thing collapses, without any real recording or even releasing.

#523 Re: Guns N' Roses » Your Choice of Producer (And Why) For Guns Next Album... » 411 weeks ago

yes, actually you're right, TSI has very solid clear rock sound smile

#524 Re: Guns N' Roses » The Creative Crisis of Guns N' Roses » 411 weeks ago

Wagszilla wrote:

Do you guys actually expect this lineup to record new, relevant music together? I have a bridge to sell you...

honestly? no. maybe a song or two, likely some cover or re-recording of some old hit, nothing really "new". I've seen this lineup as a pure nostalgia act since the first day the "reunion" was announced, and they haven't convinced me wrong. yet?

#525 Re: Guns N' Roses » The Creative Crisis of Guns N' Roses » 411 weeks ago

I think the concert tickets are selling like crazy anyway. at least as of 2016 and 17. I can imagine the momentum will start dropping after the current tour goes to its end in november 2017, then it might make sense to do something like that.
but in the GNR world, nothing ever goes according to logic, marketing rules or just simple common sense, so anything can happen.

#526 Re: Guns N' Roses » The Creative Crisis of Guns N' Roses » 411 weeks ago

yup. Antichrist demos are interesting as well. great to track the progress and watch what the final production can do to the tracks. wish there were more demos, maybe Mechanical Animals demos could be my holy grail. remember - this album was made during the time ChiDem tracks were starting to materialize as well, and Sean Beavan was brought in to help - so MA and ChiDem were both reflection of the same year or era.

#527 Re: Guns N' Roses » The Creative Crisis of Guns N' Roses » 411 weeks ago

well, I think there's only one truly good song at HEOL - and it's Into The Fire, which is totally non-mansonic fragile thingie with a beautiful guitar solo (have you ever thought something from Manson stuff can be described as beautiful, maybe except for some stuff from Mechanical Animals, where it was deliberate?). also Devour sounds promising, but I think the teasy-teasy way they did it, which gets anti-climatic right when one expects a powerful chorus and instead it backs off, pisses me off, lol!
and yup. there were some connections to GNR. besides Chris Vrenna, there was a certain guy named Robin Finck who helped working at the very first album (Portrait of an American Family), though uncredited. but that album can hardly be described as a Manson album, it was more Trent Reznor album, using the Manson band as his alter-ego-evil-project... or maybe more precisely said - indeed it was a Manson album (a bootleg of pre-Reznor mixes exists and it's wicked), but only Trent made it sound brutal and modern, his work culminating in Antichrist Superstar which was a huge shock.
haha, for me personally, I only started discovering new music because Axl and Guns were on hiatus and I desperately needed something fresh and new. and then I've discovered Antichrist Superstar and my world has never been the same again wink

#528 Re: Guns N' Roses » The Creative Crisis of Guns N' Roses » 411 weeks ago

Manson got stuck in 1990's, as his greatest stuff was recorded/released during that era, or maybe more precisely until 2001 (Holy Wood was the final part of The Trilogy, with Antichrist Superstar and Mechanical Animals on par at his peak era). he tried reinventing himself, and the Grotesque album was also very very good, at least I think so, but all subsequent stuff was totally shitty, with just a few exceptions (a number of songs at EMDM which is in fact a Skold album anyway, about 2 songs at HEOL and maybe 1 cover at BV). at the last album (which is in turn more a Tyler Bates album featuring Manson), there are about 5 good songs, which I like listening to, but still it's far from awesome.
his case nicely illustrates how an interesting and creative artist gets burnt out quickly and totally out of creative ideas and it can happen during a very short timeline. Manson of the last 10+ years can only be described as uninspired, bored and unable to step out of his own shadow.
yes, parallels with Axl are there indeed.

#529 Re: Guns N' Roses » The Creative Crisis of Guns N' Roses » 412 weeks ago

not sure if mid-90's is the right way to start, because all the clasical bands went to crap by that point. music was overran by grunge already, together with alternative rock and emerging nu-metal genre, also with extreme metal on the rise. this was the dominion of Marilyn Manson (and Antichrist Superstar was THE album of the late 90's). you can't just turn back to half 90's hard rock. you need to reinvent it and yourself as well. Axl seemed to know it and tried for a couple of years, until some idiot told him ChiDem is shitty about 5 minutes before it went to release, shit hit the fan and everything went down the toilet.

#530 Re: Guns N' Roses » The Creative Crisis of Guns N' Roses » 412 weeks ago

hmmm Duff is sober and doing a healthy lifestyle for maybe 20 years, so I guess his health is fine, all of the "new Guns" seem to be totally healthy as well, hard to say about Slash and Axl.

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