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#561 Re: Guns N' Roses » Hard Skool: Does it date from ‘96? » 161 weeks ago

I think it was 2002 before the tour when Axl posted a big statement which was all basically about Slash and how he was a cancer.

While in 2006 he said "he had love for him and wish him the best", before the visiting his house thing turned it sour again.

It seems it was meeting the world in 2001 and 2002 that turned up his hatred for Slash. He realized how much him leaving had damaged his own brand. In a sense it was the first time Axl personally felt the damage and it pissed him off. Tour wasn't selling, media was hostile and the record company wanted a reunion.

#562 Re: The Sunset Strip » Anne Heche dead at 53 » 161 weeks ago

Triple H wrote:

Did you guys see the footage of her unzipping her body bag and trying to climb out of it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uX1xFRMXrks

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Modern cars can be hijacked electronically and set to max speed and there is nothing you can do to stop it.

But I don't know why they would want to kill Anne Heche.

#563 Re: The Sunset Strip » RIP Olivia Newton John » 161 weeks ago

I don't think my generation knows who she was. Grease, but that's it.

You listen to Deep Purple, Rolling Stones, Floyd and think you know the 70s, but you really don't. When I see that performance of Magic it reminds me of a time that was barely alive when I was a kid but it is familiar. Society was more like that than Jimmy Page. Very colorful, innocent and weird.

It's terrible what we have become. The deaths of these old stars mark a kind of boundary saying that time is truly over now. One example I always like is when my father and his friends used to smuggle booze when they were flying by simply handing their bags to somebody over a small fence at the airport. Now that was freedom.

These days they'd charge you as a terrorist for doing anything "rogue" at the airport. Everybody wound up tight, lawsuits flying, charges, regulations, lawyers, bureaucrats, political correctness, war, famine, recession, depression. It's all just one big hassle. Somebody really ought to pay for that, but I know they won't.

So thank you Olivia for at least reminding me of better times as we slowly descend into hell.

#564 Re: The Sunset Strip » Most Recent Movie You've Seen » 161 weeks ago

I remember when I was younger if a movie had some type of flaw it was shit. A bit like girls I suppose, there was only a handful in the whole school that were good enough for a pimply teenage boy.

Watching Prometheus which I used to hate I realized there is much to like in that movie. Compared to a movie like the Avengers where there is nothing great just mediocre and bad, a movie like Prometheus has a lot going for it. The David character and Fassbender is probably worth the price of admission alone. Then you have the overall quality of a Ridley Scott production and the pretty decent acting from Noomi Rapace. Also all the characters you hate end up getting killed, another plus.

#565 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 161 weeks ago

Axl S wrote:

But what's the gain from this "witch hunt" here.

The Dems had a chance to be singing from the rooftops about their bill that they passed and perhaps Biden could then get something in about student loans later this month, which could give them some positive stuff to talk about going into the midterms. This raid buries all of that in the news cycle.

If this is a conspiratorial witch hunt, what are they actually gaining from it?

I have no idea what they are playing at, but I do know raiding the house of a former President for some bullshit stuff that is probably not even illegal, is not normal. You didn't see that in America. You don't see it in Europe. You see it in places like Mexico and Brazil.

#566 Re: Guns N' Roses » Why no photo shoots after 1991? » 161 weeks ago

To me dated can mean two things:

1. Something takes place or sounds like a specific era. For example the Sopranos takes place in late 90s, early 00s and you won't get all the references unless you lived in that time or are very familiar with it.

2. Something that was good then but not anymore.

Clearly UYI is dated in the first sense. I'd say most popular music is like that. You can hear the Beatles is from the 60s, Zeppelin from the 70s and Def Leppard from the 80s and so forth.

But in the second? I think that's going too far. Admittedly I don't listen to these albums a whole lot anymore either, so I took II for a spin yesterday.

Civil War definitely falls in the bloated category. It goes on a little too long and Axl going political was never a good look. Still it's a great song, especially the first 2-3 minutes are massive. I would say the issues this song has are minor compared to the things that work.

14 Years, great song nothing wrong with it.

Yesterdays, ditto.

KOHD, a bit unnecessary and the live versions tend to be better, but still this is a great recording.

Get In The Ring, lyrics are cringe and not a good look but damn the song is catchy and fun.

Shotgun Blues, okay song. Lyrics again a bit cringe. Could have dropped this.

Breakdown, great song.

Pretty Tied Up, great and mean song. Total rock n roll, fantastic lyrics.

So Fine, not a bad song but should be dropped to avoid it feeling like a ballads album.

Estranged, this used to win all the polls back on HTGTH. Doesn't seem to have the same luster anymore but hard to argue any faults with this song.   

You Could Be Mine, massive song.

Don't Cry (alt), should have been a b-side to a single.

My World, could be removed.

Trim 30% from those albums and make it a proper double album and you have a great release which would probably be remembered a lot more fondly than the bloated pair we got.

#567 Re: Guns N' Roses » Will the next single be something we've heard already? » 161 weeks ago

He makes an album, wants to release it. Record company says no, we won't support it. It's not good enough.

Buckethead comes in, inspires Axl to some degree, makes new stuff.

What happens after that I don't know, but it seems clear the label rejected the album for a reason. They wanted more hits or a reunion. Axl doesn't appear to have written any hits in this period so perhaps the limbo is just that. When Azoff came in they released a leaks album to cash in. Guess the label just decided to cut their losses at that point.

I'm not sure this constant Axl tinkering had so much with not wanting to release it. Rather it is lacking ideas to come up with something the label is willing to fund with a big promotional campaign. If Axl could just release it at any time and was ready to do just that in 99 what exactly is keeping him from doing that at some later point? The material added by Buckethead can't exactly have made the album worse in Axl's estimation.

#568 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 161 weeks ago

It's complete nonsense as classified documents fall under the executive branch and the President has the power to classify or declassify anything he wants, officially or on the fly. He can take it home, do whatever he wants with it, give it to whoever he wants. 

And even if he wasn't President with those powers, the last time a government official was charged with mishandling documents he got slapped with a misdemeanor and there was no FBI raid on his house. This is a former President, only a banana republic would stoop so low for political gain over some bullshit. Total witch hunt. If you haven't noticed the establishment having it in for Trump since day 1 I don't know what to tell you.

#569 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 161 weeks ago

This has got nothing to do with the law. If it did the Bidens and the Clintons would be behind bars years ago.

It's a political witch hunt, nothing more. The USA has officially become a corrupt, latin American country.

#570 Re: Guns N' Roses » Will the next single be something we've heard already? » 162 weeks ago

They broke him in the early part of the decade. Beginning of CD he was surrounding himself with top talent, at the end it was Frank Ferrer, DJ Ashba and Caram Costanzo.

Kinda like how he stopped smiling in pictures after Stephanie Seymour dumped him in 92. First it was women then it was the music biz. 2006 is just a feeble attempt to keep on pushing until realizing nothing has changed and giving up. Since then he's just been collecting checks.

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