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#571 Re: Guns N' Roses » Pop Quiz: What band? » 893 weeks ago
Trick question. It's Guns N Roses
I'll go with NIN?!
Yeah, go fish with NIN.
I'll bring the beer. Thank Trent for Ghosts for me, will ya?
Clinic?
Ah, Klinik. Didn't see that one coming.
You boys are going industrial here. The Cure was closer.
#572 Re: Guns N' Roses » Pop Quiz: What band? » 893 weeks ago
Neemo, The Cure is an excellent answer, even if it's not the particular band I'm after.
You got very close in many ways...
#573 Re: Guns N' Roses » Pop Quiz: What band? » 893 weeks ago
Just testing.
To anyone who knows the band, that should be a dead giveaway.
When the singer, who'd originally only written the lyrics on the the music written by other people, had been left to his own devices, he opted to go for a more grand direction. He has expressed a penchant towards towards epics, and has collaborated with a well-known producer known for his theatrically overblown sound. The producer is well-known in the rock circles for his late 70's collaboration with one heavy rock star. You know the name, I know it.
#574 Re: Guns N' Roses » Pop Quiz: What band? » 893 weeks ago
Let's see...
#575 Guns N' Roses » Pop Quiz: What band? » 893 weeks ago
- sic.
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This is borderline as to whether or not it's proper for the GNR section, I know. I wanted to post it here to discuss the analogies when compared to the CD saga.
# After recording their breakthrough album in the 80's, the frontman alienated his former band mates and bought the name. He has since toured and recorded under this name.
# The band has not released an original studio album since the early 90's.
# In the early 90's, the frontman left for a self-imposed exile from the music world.
# The frontman experienced a fallout with his label and refused to work with them.
# In '95, a former member laid down demo tracks to be used as a basis for the frontman's next album. The frontman never used them.
# The other members of the original band have since gone and founded a new band. They have recorded and toured to this day for a fair share of fame in their circles.
# As the sole remaining original member, the frontman has gathered a touring lineup around him. He continues to tour sporadically (in 2006, he toured extensively).
# The setlists consist of mostly old material from the studio albums. A batch of new, unreleased songs have been played live every now and then.
# The frontman maintains a new studio album is being worked on, but has refused to give any solid updates, let alone firm release dates. He rarely gives interviews or appears in public.
# Despite the lack of news concerning the new album, sporadic live appearances and a ne'er-updated official website, the band sports a considerably loyal and long-suffering fanbase, which continues thrive to this day.
Can you guess the band? No, it's not the obvious answer.
#576 Re: Guns N' Roses » In Search of ... Bumblefoot (A Couple Interesting GnR mentions) » 893 weeks ago
It has to be exciting for you, since Chinese Democracy is becoming such a piece of rock history. Do you know what your contribution to the album is?
I played on every song.
Axl: "Some of Buckethead's performances are on our album." -GNR.com, 03/26/08
Ron: "Are you gonna be included on all tracks?
Not on all, but on a good chunk of them, definetely. I played a lot of rhythm parts to the stuff - To me, it felt like a lot of the rhythm tracks seemed a little mechanical and just didn't have that kinda sleazy thing that GNR always had... Also, I was pretty much given a hundred guitar solos for each song to find the thing that's gonna work best - we made sure that every possibility was there.
How many tracks have you been working on?
I don't know... we've done so many songs and not all of them will be on the album. I don't wanna know too much about the album - I want to be surprised myself. Like even the final mixes - I haven't heard them yet!" - Maximum Threshold, 04/13/07
Buckethead will be featured on CD.
Ron has recorded rhythm parts for CD.
Ron has gone through various guitar solos recorded by Bucket & Robin (and maybe Brian May, Fortus & Huge), to see how different alternatives work within the songs. Kinda daunting to do this kinda shit so late in the game but that's GNR for you!
Ron may have recorded solos that have replaced Bucket's versions.
Ron has not replaced Bucket on CD.
Paul Huge may not play on CD, although he will likely receive a ton of writing credits.
Fortus has likely been replaced by Ron to a degree.
A year ago, Ron was unsure whether he'd be featured on every CD track in some capacity. Now, he appears adamant he is on every track. Goes on to prove the track listing has been finalized, which should be a given considering the album has reportedly been completed since December.
On stage, off stage, that movie rings more true all the time. A great Spinal Tap moment was when we were playing in England two years ago. We're doing "Rocket Queen" and as we are doing the intro we see a bunch of guys bringing out these little, foot-high platforms behind us. As they are bringing them out, we are looking at each other like, "What the hell is going on?" and we go into the song and they quickly take them away. We had no idea what that was about. We found out later that we were going to have a bunch of "little people" dancing on these platforms for an extended intro to "Rocket Queen," but we were never told, so we had no clue. So we are arguing about the communication breakdown after the show, so I of course in the middle of it have one question to ask in a British accent, "Will we be doing 'Rocket Queen' tomorrow night? [instead of "Stonehenge"] And one of the guys says back [in an English voice], "No, we won't be doing fucking 'Rocket Queen'!"
That solves a mystery. Ron's referring to the Wembley shows on July 29th & 30th, 2006. The little guys entered the stage on the 30th, while Baz and Izzy were rocking out on Paradise City, with Axl backstage. I remember hearing rumors that they were supposed to appear on the 29th, but "Axl wouldn't let them."
Who knows what is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth so help him God.
#577 Re: Guns N' Roses » Classic Rock just through my door... » 895 weeks ago
Well, that puts a different spin into it.
It's curious that until recently, all of VR (aside Slash, who went with Howard Kaufman) were managed by Azoff's company. Azoff acquired the band from Immortal Entertainment in late 2004. At that point, at least Scott's personal manager from Immortal switched over to Azoff's team to continue with her client. Yet Kaufman's and Azoff's companies merged into Frontline Management in early 2005, which technically put all of VR under the same roof. More recently, at least the majority of VR (Duff, Dave & Matt) have moved from Frontline to Sanctuary Artist Management (of all places). I believe Scott continues with Frontline with his long-time personal manager. Don't really know whether Slash is still with Kaufman or not.
But VR changed management around the same time Axl's association to Azoff was confirmed. Not to mention Axl was supposed to move in with Azoff while he was still managed by Merck.
#578 Re: Guns N' Roses » A general lawsuit info thread » 895 weeks ago
Nope, this is an alleged incident from one of the Gibson Amphitheatre shows in December '06.
Funny enough, the document itself had 1996 in it, even though they got the date and the venue right. Who cares about all those pesky little details?
#579 Re: The Sunset Strip » The BATMAN Thread » 895 weeks ago
Burton has admitted that he hardly ever read any comics while researching the character. Ever read any Batman comics from the 70's or 80's? Frank Miller did far more to re-tool the character than Tim Burton.
I believe Dark Night Returns and Killing Joke were the main inspirations for Batman '89, which is why we get the body armor (a rare commodity for Bats, considering) and the Joker born in the chemical vat. As for merging Joe Chill with Jack Napier, I remember reading an interview with Sam Hamm, the original screenwriter, and he was a bit antsy because the studio overruled him and decided Joker and The Bat should have a more clear-cut relationship, in order to make the climax a justifiable homicide, which (the line of thinking, that is) is just bullshit on its own right.
But Burton (and Hamm) got a lot from Miller and Alan Moore, no denying there. Personally, I never saw Burton as Batman revisionist, more like taking the gothic look lacing it with angst-ridden atmosphere that spread from Watchmen in the comic book circles and took it into a certain zenith with his live-action Batmans. Particularly Batman Returns is a good example, as it tells about just how damn hard it is to be a crimefighter when the girls you bed might next night be kicking your ass while wearing drop-dead outfits. While Batman Returns remains as one of my all-time favorites despite the occasional script issues, it's not exactly the sort of epic people have learned to expect from Batman, Superman, or any other comic book figure of a similar stature.
So don't diss Burton too much, as he only had Pee-Wee's Playhouse (even the name of that Reubens character gives me the creeps ) and Beetlejuice under his belt. He wasn't all that established and frankly, Hollywood hadn't yet gone the comic book route on that level before. They had Superman, but that one had a Siegel/Shuster feel written to it since Day 1 (meaning it felt and looked like a 60's serial) and became rapidly outdated by not only the looks but the behind-the-scenes megalomania. Which sounds a bit like what happened to Batman. Warner never learn, I guess. Once Batman hit the ball out of the ballpark, Burton had greater (self) confidence on the follow-up, which is why it's more distinctly a Burton film, even when I maintain he was representing a certain era of comic books through his own ideas and themes concerning social misfits.
Funny that, Sam Hamm, the original Batman '89 scribe, would go on to write the anniversary mini-series Blind Justice, which I always thought was a rather good, experimental take on Batman/Wayne. I so happy when Nolan took a lot of ideas from Hamm (an amusing turn) to Batman Begins, as Hamm wanted explore similar themes, as in how did Bruce Wayne become Batman, practically speaking. How'd he get his gear, training, etc. Have you read it?
I'm also told Hamm's original draft on Batman is something to behold, which I believe didn't include the Napier/Chill mash-up.
#580 Re: Guns N' Roses » Classic Rock just through my door... » 896 weeks ago
That's certainly a possibility, but mind you, Slash & Duff sued Axl twice. The first time was in May 2004, which was the infamous lawsuit about Axl quitting GNR and therefore, having no control over the band name and back catalogue. The second time was in August 2005, which was over publishing royalties (which apparently boiled down to a clerical error).
So.
October 2005, 5.30AM, Latigo Canyon, California. Slash rings Axl's doorbell to drop in a piece of paper in order to nullify the royalty lawsuit. Beta answers. Slash delivers a paper regarding the suit. Beta asks how are things with VR. Slash says something or the other and choice cuts are delivered to Axl through Beta.
On October 31st, news start trickling on WTTJ: The Very Best of GNR, with a December 6th release date attached. It is then pushed on to March.
Cue early 2006. Slash starts giving comments in the press that CD is apparently finished and he heard it'd be released in March (no who could've given him that idea? Beta, you shouldn't talk to the likes of Slash or Classic Rock). On March 6th, Axl launches his attack on Slash via the press release, no doubt at least partially to downplay the comments Slash's been making.
There's a lot to the story we don't know. It seems Geffen and Axl were indeed discussing about the release of a Best of with a few reunion shows to heighten interest on the impending release of CD. Of course, none of that happened and the fans always end up getting the shortest shrift.