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#571 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns N' Roses & related STUDIO SESSIONS - a definitive collection (?) » 361 weeks ago

Wow, interesting find! I'd never seen that tape before.

I keep watching for a cheap censored copy of the "End of Days" soundtrack to show up on eBay, as I want to buy it and see if they bleeped "Oh My God."

Thanks for confirming that "Street of Dreams" is official. It certainly sounded like it. Very professionally done.

#572 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns N' Roses & related STUDIO SESSIONS - a definitive collection (?) » 361 weeks ago

Should official edits be factored in to this list? A few to consider:

https://www.discogs.com/Guns-N-Roses-We … se/5882689
1    Welcome To The Jungle (The All Dayparts Radio Edit)    4:10
2    Welcome To The Jungle (CHR Edit)    3:41

https://www.discogs.com/Guns-N-Roses-Sw … ase/974018
1    Sweet Child O' Mine (The All Dayparts Remix)    4:18
2    Sweet Child O' Mine (Edit / Remix)    4:53
3    Sweet Child O' Mine (LP Version)    5:55

https://www.discogs.com/Guns-N-Roses-Sw … se/5882576
1    Sweet Child O' Mine (Edit/Remix)    3:57

https://www.discogs.com/G-nR-Estranged/release/5519261
1    Estranged    5:14
2    Estranged    6:37

https://www.discogs.com/Guns-N-Roses-Ch … se/5003735
1    Chinese Democracy (Original Radio Edit)    3:42
2    Chinese Democracy    4:42

https://www.discogs.com/Guns-N-Roses-St … se/8680221
1    Street Of Dreams    4:44
2    Street Of Dreams (Radio Edit)    4:21
(This one is listed as "unofficial," meaning a counterfeit. Has that been verified one way or the other?)

While the "Jungle" and "SCOM" edits kind of gut those tracks, the "Estranged" edits are very good. They streamline the song making it more focused and powerful.

P.S. Check out the ad for the Appetite box set! https://tpc.googlesyndication.com/simga … 6743919606

#573 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns N' Roses tour to continue through 2017(and beyond) » 361 weeks ago

elevendayempire wrote:

Wonder if we can infer from this that Move to the City is going on the setlist? Since these lyric videos are usually "the graphics created for the tour plus some lyrics slapped on top of it".

Let's hope so! If the band is looking to recapture the spirit of the early days, that track certainly fits the bill.

The first GNR bootleg I ever heard was the Perkins Palace gig, and the show's rendition of "Move to the City" was one of the things that made me realize they were a great live band.

#574 Re: Guns N' Roses » LEAKS THREAD » 361 weeks ago

Sorry, I was mixing up the folks mentioned in a post in that thread, thinking they ran the MyGNR site. My apologies.

#575 Re: Guns N' Roses » LEAKS THREAD » 362 weeks ago

zombux wrote:
ClaudeF wrote:

I heard that "I Don't Care" had been posted on YT but one of the mods at MyGNR submitted a copyright request to have it pulled. If true, that means the guy basically pulled it from one site to post it on his own.

do you have some more "proofs" on this saying? because I don't think this is true, instead our dear friend BloJo hunted the link down... only to realize other hundred of reuploads pop up every day instead of that one.

I read it here. Again, as I said, "If true ..." At this point it's easy to feel paranoid.

http://www.gunsnfnroses.com/index.php?/ … sed-video/

metallex78, I agree that the original five defined the GNR sound, but to see Bucket on stage with GNR in professionally shot footage it a real treat. My point about Slash was actually your point, just stated differently: He's who the public thinks of (and wants) as the guitarist of GNR. As such, footage of Bucket in that role is primarily of interest to hardcore fans, not the public at large.

#576 Re: Guns N' Roses » LEAKS THREAD » 362 weeks ago

I heard that "I Don't Care" had been posted on YT but one of the mods at MyGNR submitted a copyright request to have it pulled. If true, that means the guy basically pulled it from one site to post it on his own.

Unbelievable. Well, maybe not so unbelievable.

Lomax, run a search on YT for "Welcome to the Jungle," sorting by upload date. That footage from the January 1, 2001, HOB show is posted there.

At this point, you're right. For those of us obsessed fans, it's really interesting but for the general public it's not. Even though this version is greatly reduced in quality (from a 1.4GB full show, whereas the original VHS tape transfer ran 10GB), it would appear that the cameras used were not top notch. They were video cameras of some kind, not actual film, and nowhere near the quality of today's hi-def. Furthermore, the camerawork is sloppy.

The best thing about it is the editing. Shots linger on each guy, none of the fast cuts you see so often nowadays, so you can actually, for example, watch closeups of Buckethead playing several bars of music at a time. THAT makes it a gem for all of us, but again, the general public thinks of Slash as the guitarist of GNR.

With footage of the reunited band readily available and the "Appetite for Democracy" home video having been gorgeously filmed to represent the new/old GNR lineup, I can't see this getting a proper, official release nowadays unless it is part of a Chinese Democracy box set. Which it SHOULD be, along with the re-recorded Appetite, just to clear Axl's cupboards of old material. But it's hard to imagine it being sold - or selling to many people - on its own in 2018.

#577 Re: GN'R Downloads » This I Love Remixes » 362 weeks ago

The echo effect is probably due to one element (either the song itself or the multitracks) being slightly faster. I've noticed that happening when trying to combine radio edits of songs with album versions. The singles sometimes are sped up slightly (say 1%) to make them shorter in duration and higher energy.

Apparently the mis-alignment is how producers do phasing sound effects, by intentionally fading between two recordings of slightly different speeds.

Could you slow down the multitracks to see if that fixes the issue?

#578 Re: Guns N' Roses » LEAKS THREAD » 362 weeks ago

Yes, gentlemen, the HOB show leaked, and apparently went up on YouTube but got taken down before my eyes beheld its glory!

God willing it will resurface some time soon. I want to see this guy again: bucket

#579 Re: Guns N' Roses » LEAKS THREAD » 362 weeks ago

Wagszilla wrote:

Orange haired angst has paid off well, now he's bored and old.

axl92

Indeed! smile

That podcast put my brain through the wringer. After all of the drama of trades going awry, to find out somebody re-created "The General" using individual syllables of Axl's voice to construct new words was astonishing.

One thing has become apparent to me after all these years of ChiDem leaks and especially the 2001-vintage ones: Axl's vocals, for the most part, were recorded early, so we're not likely to hear many alternate performances from him. We've seen the "I know you know you know better" bridge eliminated from "Better," and different vocal finales to "Chinese Democracy" and "Street of Dreams," but there do not seem to be any "Don't Cry (1)"/"Don't Cry (2)" scenarios, where he's tried radically different interpretations of the same song.

I'd held out the possibility that he might have done otherwise but this really does seem to be the case.

The podcast also suggests elevendayempire is right and the leaks could dry up for a while simply because of the bad feelings between all those involved. We went just a few years between The Spaghetti Incident and "Oh My God" but we're now approaching a full decade after the release of Chinese Democracy without a new officially released Axl Rose recording. That's actually saddening.

At this point my greatest hope is to see the HOB 2001 performance.

#580 Re: Guns N' Roses » LEAKS THREAD » 362 weeks ago

Gagarin wrote:

I never believed that story.

That MSL helped to leak "Shackler's"? Given his track record before and since, I don't doubt him. He certainly hadn't been shy about what he had NOT leaked.

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