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#571 Re: Guns N' Roses » Rough Mixes Disc 3 » 300 weeks ago
An absolutely perfect analogy James.
#572 Re: Guns N' Roses » Josh Freese appreciation thread » 300 weeks ago
Freeses’ drumming on this Oklahoma is Buckethead’s solo on TWAT level good.
And this motherfucker was doing triple drum kicks like on Soul Monster like it was nothing.
All hail the king baby.
#573 Re: Guns N' Roses » The Rebel Disc » 300 weeks ago
Me luv Chairman long time.
No boom-boom with Wrestle Brother...
#574 Re: Guns N' Roses » Rough Mixes Disc 3 » 300 weeks ago
If you add some good Axl lyrics and vocals, a dash of Bucket solos, and one or two mid-tempo epics for good measure, you've got, if not a superior album to Chinese Democracy, a hell of a follow up album with a much harder edge.
Put this out and send Slash off to make glue.
This rocks hard.
#575 Re: Guns N' Roses » Rough Mixes Disc 3 » 300 weeks ago
I'm still working my way through.
Oklahoma sounds great. And since it's 19 years old, I can take it out to dinner.
Along with Hard School, it has mainstream radio play potential. Hopefully Axl penned some good lyrics to it.
Also, here's the quote from "Dub Suplex" intro:
#576 Re: Guns N' Roses » Rough Mixes Disc 1 » 300 weeks ago
I've briefly covered the superlative mixes so let's turn to the track list and the overarching ethos.
In short, I love it.
"Madagascar" is the perfect album opener. It's a damn impressive song in it's own right and kicks things off on the right foot. Thematically, it sets the table for "Chinese Democracy" being some sort of Axl Rose redemption album and offers a tipping of the album's musical hand. It gently speaks that you, dear listener, are in for some high art alternative rock - full of epic emotions, soaring strings and soft balladry, so ready yourself as you're in for a beautiful and wondrous ride.
However Madagascar-as-opener to Chinese Democracy is not without it's flaws, as I would have gone with the more modest title "2000 Intentions" over the subversive and politically charged "Chinese Democracy". I also certainly would've gone with Brain Mantia on drums with the choice +3dB drum cut that conjures up visions of something like Axl Rose starring in Saving Private Ryan and Battleship Potemkin before finding himself back on American soil to march with Martin Luther King Jr. from Selma to Montgomery. Although this is the only place where Josh Freese stumbles as his sharp and punky drumming is the perfect complement to the punk pop smarts of The Replacements (and Duff McKagan replacement) bassist Tommy Stinson.
Instead, the finished 2008 album starts with a toothless and overlong version of "Chinese Democracy", thereby forcing a raw and respectable rocker to take center stage. The un-skippable 1-minute intro serves no narrative, artistic, or musical purpose and becomes insufferable on repeated listenings (even Axl Rose's preferred high art booklet, privy only to GN'R collectors and internet cultists, contains no translation for this Chinese gibberish). Here instead, Chinese Democracy as Track 8 along with Track 6 (Riad and the Bedouins) reward dedicated listeners with a jolt of new metal tinged hard rock by offering an amalgam of Buckethead's "Monsters and Robots", Led Zeppelin's "Zeppelin III", and Nirvana's "Nevermind". It's an interesting blend of classic rock, grunge, and new metal funk.
This track listing further succeeds by unveiling the Big Guns right out of the gate, serving up the highly esteemed "There Was A Time" as the second track and "Prostitute" as the fifth track. This contributes to the overall no-nonsense feel of this version which again contrasts starkly with the finished albums second track, "Shackler's Revenge". The Buckethead banger is a damn good dance-rocker but it begins with the most annoying sound in the world since Jim Carrey screamed in Jeff Daniels' ear in the passenger seat of the Shaggin' Wagon in the 1991 Farrelly Brother's comedy, Dumb And Dumber. It no doubt would've been a track best held off until future albums more inline with it's sonic kin. In short, between a mediocre opener and an obnoxious introduction to the second title, it's shocking anyone ever got to track three on the 2008 version of Chinese Democracy, let alone the depressive ending to "Prostitute" with a 20 second fade-to-black style outro.
The songs "Perhaps", "Atlas Shrugged", and "Catcher In The Rye", better known to both Guns and Queen fans as the Brian May trilogy, serve as light but engaging faire befitting of a nice weekend walk or cruise down Hollywood Boulevard on a sun-soaked afternoon. All feature a very whimsical vocal styling from Mr. Rose who offers new personal insights to what he was doing and thinking about from 1995 to 1999 during his "Wilderness Years" and feature beautifully melodic, Beatles-esque crooning from Axl. While the much-loved "Catcher In the Rye" is a delicious whiskey which appreciates with repeated tastings, I'm not sure it's reflective nature belongs on the first album in a supposed trilogy. It's something of a non-fit and could be adequately replaced by the entertaining synth pop aspiring Bond track "If The World" and the album would be no worse for it.
Taking center stage here is the uptempo ballad "The Blues" featuring Axl Rose pouring his heart out over a piano about a lost love (or is it lost guitar player) complete with synth lines, soaring guitars, and crashing cymbals (again, the immaculate Josh Freese). "Everywhere I go I see you, I don't know just what I will do", Rose bemoans before concluding "what I thought was beautiful don't live inside you anymore" which is perhaps the most evident hint this ballad is indeed about longtime friend and departed guitar Slash nee former beau's Everly, Seymour, et. al.
Lastly, the electronic rock experiment "Silkworms" features some sumptuous synth textures and industrial ranting but offers naught much more than passing novelty, although truth be told it's explicit lyrics are embarrassingly catchy. Instead, close the album with the obscenely singable Robin Finck "hip-hop pop" track "Better" (formerly, "Three Dollar Pyramid" and you have a recipe for leaving your audience happy and desperate for more.
In short, with this track listing, the superfine mixes on offer, and a couple of easy modifications, the proposed 2000 Intentions would've serve as a stunning introduction to the world of the New Guns N' Roses as a diverse, talented, and defiantly rebellious group of men marching down the road less travelled. It's Zeppelin III with a dash of Zeppelin II, cautioning it's listeners that there's more and meaner sections ahead, and I for one, can't wait.
What this means to me is more than I know you believe...
#577 Re: Guns N' Roses » Rough Mixes Disc 1 » 300 weeks ago
Ezrin needs to be interviewed again.
Yeah. Interviewed. In a dark room. With a sock full of quarters.
#578 Re: Guns N' Roses » Rough Mixes Disc 1 » 300 weeks ago
I'm skipping my way around the disc.
But Josh Freese absolutely SLAMS on There Was A Time.
And that version of Chinese Democracy is fierce as hell. Even Pitman's synth line has more bite.
I didn't even like Atlas but this version is great.
Bob Ezrin... just...
#579 Re: Guns N' Roses » Me And My Elvis Instrumental Leak (2019) » 300 weeks ago
This track is incredible.
It's got Chris Pitman channelling his inner Vangelis on the synthscapes, Dizzy Reed splashing the keys, Josh Freese mastering the drum craft on tape, a killer Sabbath vibe (only musical comparison quote from this project that makes any sense and surprise, it's from Axl), and supposedly a Robin Finck SRV solo in a future version.
In short, it's another track from this batch of leaks where the entire band shines.
And yet, I cannot claw myself away from Zodiac 13 being my favorite one of the bunch.
$14 million well spent.