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#51 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General and Monsters » 86 weeks ago
I just realised this release makes it more logical that Slash didn't know exactly how many songs he worked on....like was this one or two. It also fits with his comment that that some of them were epic - love or hate it this song was certainly arty in scope. Like they are matching mood pieces and not just a quick little formula rocker or something. Makes sense.
So we ticked off Absurd, Hardschool, Perhaps, General and Monsters.
I almost believe that's all they did given it's 5.
I sort of hope they will finish the set with Atlas and State of Grace...just cos Axl vocals should not go to waste, and hell maybe re-work the remaining parts of "eye on you" - give it the absurd treatment to make it rocky from rappy, but that sounds like 8 songs and slash didn't say that many....hey i'm just glad we've had anything. It makes a nice little EP.
#52 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General and Monsters » 86 weeks ago
"In here with me" would fit with some of Axl's rumoured spiritual interests.
People have suggested sometimes he thought he was battling demonic influences, and I remember back in 2001 he used a sample from Exorcist 3 to open the show. There's also other Axl lyrics hinting that he thinks of himself as having something of a duel nature eg "Don't fuck with the bad side of me" in perfect crime amongst others.
To my mind it it also works with these songs kinda theme of surviving abuse and the effects of abuse.
Pure speculation of course but it's interesting to think about.
#53 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General and Monsters » 86 weeks ago
I am still not sure on the "But in the end I guess you’re good for the damin’" line
the last word I cant quite make out but I think its close
Yeah, I wondered about that too. But I think 'damning' does make sense - both with the previous line about how he formally thought the person was worth having, and also the themes in the song of Satan's laugh, the devil's romancing and the monsters in hell and hell on earth. So i think it kinda fits.
#54 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General and Monsters » 86 weeks ago
There’s no excuses for the hell I let you put me through
I'm speculating on this one but I also wonder if that line is "there's no excuses for the hell on earth you put me through"
I might be hearing things there though it's hard to make out.
Thanks for all your work with the lyrics, I love to read into what Axl is saying with these kinds of songs.
#55 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General and Monsters » 86 weeks ago
The gun is safe in fact it’s hid away inside of you
I think this line might be
"The dirty secret that you hid away inside of you"
#56 Re: The Garden » Current Events... » 86 weeks ago
What is ailing us? Can it be defined?
I'm not sure, I think about this a lot and I can never quite put my finger on it.
On the right I see people who claim to have christian values but act anything but christian, on the left I see people fighting against various causes by doing the very things they claim to be against.
None of it makes any sense to me. I feel like both sides would do better to steal-man position the other sides views, but instead the left says everyone on the right is an asshole and the right says everyone on the left is crazy.
It's time for views that are not so polarised.
Like maybe there is a compromise between socialism that has never really worked and killed millions, or ruthless capitalism devoid of any ethical framework that makes everyone struggle harder each year. Why must we have exclusively one or the other?
But yet everything gets more and more polarised. You have to either think that the solution to the gun issue is more guns or you have to think we should ban capitalism and all the things that made our society good in the first place. Fuck that. I want a compromise.
What ever happened to some common sense? What ever happened to a reasonable middle position in all this? Why does no one have any ethical restraint? Would it kill people to have a little more empathy?
Something is very wrong it seems.
#57 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General confirmed next » 87 weeks ago
I am a huge fan of Baz.
But I think his comments on CD songs need to be taken in context - he is a fanboy for Axl himself and rightly so seeing as they are buddies and hang out and Axl is a leader in his craft.
But I mean one of his best mates, who he admires and looks up to, and who works in the profession he also works in plays him some songs - while they are hanging out having a good time - all it takes for him to be impressed is the song to have a grandiose style (certain with the synths) and for Axl to do some impressive vocal lines or screams (pretty much par for the course with 1999-2009 era Axl).
So yeah...I think Baz was right in what he said at the time in that situation...but I dunno if that's going to translate into happiness for fans who have built a 20 year mythology around the song and filled the absense of activitiy and PR with their own hopes and dreams.
I'm not sure there is any song that can drop now which will please those people. The idea of a mystery song is better than any song that surfaces. Especially given all these songs on these albums seem to be genre-blending-bending-experiments that simultaneously excite then subvert your expectations.
Myself I will be pleased if we get some vintage Axl screams and some cool Slash solos. I think it will be good cos stuff retouched from that era has been good. But I also don't expect it to top the best of the best stuff either.
#58 Re: Guns N' Roses » Post UR top 2 Favorite Gnr forum moments » 87 weeks ago
1. As listed above the start of the 2006 shows - Axl does Trunk - where I think he came across extremely likeable and relatable for a guy who tends to get bad press. The band was booked into the Hamerstein Ballroom shows and there was a lot of excitement around the 2006 comeback - and then they delivered well on the tour too - awesome rasp on the shows - randomly doing fun CD songs like ITS and TWAT and general all around excitement and positivity that year.
2. The Axl chats - Axl dropping into all the major forums to take questions on CD was very exciting. It's always interesting to get his perspective on the music.
#59 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General confirmed next » 87 weeks ago
It's quite common in some bands to credit everyone as songwriters.
For example RHCP and U2 tend to do this regardless of who the actual first songwriter is.
There's pros and cons either way.
Dave Mustaine has sometimes spoken against that model - pointing out why should he credit people as songwriters who just happened to be sitting around in a room behind a drum kit when he wrote a new guitar riff on the spot.
On the other hand you get situations like Estranged - where a guitar line significantly elevates what could have been considered a completed musical piece without them.
Likewise when songs have been jammed in a group it can get complex - if a singer copies parts of a background guitar part in the vocal melody or a guitar solo rearranges parts of the vocal line - who wrote what. Sometimes its easier to just give everyone and nod and not worry about the drama of who made what first.
#60 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General confirmed next » 87 weeks ago
No body's leaving cos we're all too drunk to drive, 74 pages later we're still here, and I think we're doin' fine.
