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#591 Re: Guns N' Roses » July 17th 1993 - 29 years ago » 165 weeks ago

I'm not even sure I heard GN'R on the radio as a kid. Television in my country had nothing like that and the radio channels were very restricted too. I grew up rural, no elder brothers at my house or my friends houses. So seeing the Live Era promotion on TV in 1999 was my first introduction to GN'R music at all.

I would probably have gotten into them much earlier if I could only hear it. I didn't even know Oh My God existed until I started going on HTGTH in 00/01. At least for some parts of the world the mid to late 90s was a timeline where GN'R did not exist. I remember seeing those 80s hits album they advertised on TV, there was never any GN'R songs on them. My cousin had a poster on his wall at some point, and there was some talk at school when they toured here in 1993, so I knew about it but never heard it.

#592 Re: The Sunset Strip » Most Recent Movie You've Seen » 165 weeks ago

You never saw Network before? Man, you've been missing out.

A type of movie you wonder why it was ever made. They Live you can understand because Carpenter is a wacky independent filmmaker who can do what he wants, but Sidney Lumet was a studio guy, household name. Guess it was just that wild part of the seventies where you were allowed to do anything and even the conservative studio heads were ready to approve it.

#593 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns n Roses=a joke » 165 weeks ago

Tortilla_Man wrote:

Wherever Axl goes music doesn't get released.

Slash n Duff always had New albums to tour behind whether it was Snakepit, Neurotic Outsiders, Loaded, SMKC,  Solo Albums, etc.
Until they rejoined GnR and Axl and his new music graveyard.


AC/DC is another band that always has a New Album to tour behind, in fact Axl is the only singer to ever be in AC/DC that never recorded a AC/DC album.

Wherever Axl goes nothingness follows

Axl = death of New music

Not the perfect analogy when AC/DC have only had 3 singers, but I still loled. 14

#594 Re: Guns N' Roses » July 17th 1993 - 29 years ago » 165 weeks ago

In like 1994 the teen music magazines talked about the internal division in the band. They presented it as Axl/Duff on one side and Slash/Matt/Gilby on the other. In 1995 they were pretty much off the news and by the time I got into music in 1996 it was like it never happened. GN'R did not register on my radar until they released Live Era in 1999. There was no talk, nothing going on. A dead band.

#595 Re: Guns N' Roses » Could the first Snakepit album have been a good record with Axl / Duff » 165 weeks ago

I don't care so much for lyrics apart from the way they sound when being sung. What I don't get about CD is how weak Axl sounds vocally when we know from the live shows that he had a great voice at the time. Not as much rasp as the old days, but still a very strong and powerful voice. Most of CD sounds like he's straining to sound like his old self. The IRS scream is good but is it really on the level of those Live and Let Die screams he did in 2002? Only the scream in TWAT and the vocals on Oh My God give credit to his skills at the time. This I Love too but that song is so cheesy.

#596 Re: Guns N' Roses » What’s your opinion of the Spaghetti Incident? Rank the tracks! » 165 weeks ago

I don't like it when bands do too many covers. If you do a cover there should be a reason behind it. KOHD is cool because they take a very solemn song and turn it into a party anthem. LALD is superfluous. It's nothing more than the original with GN'R playing the instruments.

A whole album with covers should never be done by anyone. You are literally turning yourself into a tribute band.

Still though, Ain't It Fun is a great song and it becomes even greater when sung by Axl/Monroe and Slash playing the guitar. Of course I like listening to that song. TSI has a lot of good songs and GN'R is playing on them. It might be a dumb album but it's also a very good album. The whole band performs with top energy. The renditions aren't very creative but they sound good. A fun bar type album. Not something they should have done but as it stands quite enjoyable.

Top songs for me would be:

Down on The Farm
Hair of the Dog
Ain't It Fun
I don't Care About You

I can do without the songs with Duff on lead.

Look at your game girl is not really a great song, but as the last song on the last album by the old band it complements the sadness of the whole thing. It's a bittersweet moment when it starts to play. Charlie had a capacity for sadness. Good choice even if it was only for the controversy.

In hindsight the album was a fitting end to the trajectory of the band. 'time went by and it became a joke.

#597 Re: The Sunset Strip » Pantera to tour with Zakk Wylde and Charlie Benante » 165 weeks ago

I agree. It's been almost 20 years. Life is allowed to move on. If Queen can do it, Pantera can do it.

But in a hypothetical scenario where somebody has to fill in for Axl? I'm not sure I'd be okay with that.

#598 Re: Guns N' Roses » Could the first Snakepit album have been a good record with Axl / Duff » 165 weeks ago

Funny how they remain a big draw 30 years later on the back of 2 albums and an EP. They attract as much fans as Metallica or any other big band if we look at touring numbers. 

GN'R was 87-93 for those lucky enough to experience it. Fantastic period of music those years, the last burst of creativity before everything took a nosedive. Being alive then feels a bit like being alive in the late 60s.

#599 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns n Roses=a joke » 166 weeks ago

As time goes on it becomes more and more obvious  GN'R started being run like shit after Axl Rose became the boss. He's the boss but he doesn't want to lead. His reputation so volatile that the only people who suffer working for him are yes men afraid to make even the mildest of unsolicited suggestions.

We were expecting things to be different when Slash and Duff returned. Finally real members of the band who don't need to grovel in Axl's presence. But of course they are the yes men of the old band. If Matt was let back in he would be fired in 5 minutes after telling Axl some truth.

There was this billionaire once who gave away all his money and became a monk or something. Most people wouldn't do that but you can understand why he did it. A lot of pressure, responsibility and fear with all that money. Probably his entire waking day was spent managing all that wealth. He just wanted rid of it and live a quiet life. Everybody has moments where a little peace and quiet can be the most priceless thing in the world. Even with somebody like Jeffrey Dahmer, while you can't understand his desire to kill and eat young boys and have sex with their corpses, once that desire is established his actions make perfect sense.

With Axl nothing ever makes any sense. He comes back on stage after a decade without doing any warm up for the gigs. He shows up at the VMA, his big fucking comeback moment, and as a seasoned performer manages to become gassed after 30 seconds despite having a great voice at the time. Then, after loitering and not running his band for a few years his new lead guitar player says fuck it and quits. But what do you know, just in time for another comeback attempt his old original guitarist comes to his door begging to come back. That old original guitarist who quit on you and who you were desperate to get back in the band, that guy is at your door right now and he is begging to come back in the band. What do you do?

Okay I get it you want to succeed on your own and you're still assmad about your former guitarist, but what about 6 months later when your other guitarist has also quit, the tour tanked and the album still in limbo, what do you do then? Call DJ Ashba.

#600 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 166 weeks ago

monkeychow wrote:

Not sure i'd call it coincidence.

But a lot of the western world is in similar situation...covid shutdowns/lockdowns exasperated existing issues with the system. You got people driven into poverty who were only just hanging on to middle class. You got people driven into mental illness who had only just been hanging onto sanity. We have global inflation, global stock issues, wars to worry about, environmental issues to worry about, a generation of people raised with job insecurity and debts, record house prices in a number of places in the world, a lot of places have school debts...don't even start me on the influence of social media and all the like....like there's a lot of pressure on people...i see it as logical that a lot of similar societies would show the same cracks.

America has long been setting the pace for the rest of the world, when their society starts feeling some stress, it's logical the other similar societies will feel similar strains.

Like here in Australia it's hard to get guns, but people are not right in the head anymore, I go out for a drive and the road rage is like 100 times what it was in 2018. It's a worry.

Yeah I hear that, we can definitely expect more disturbances. Might get really bad in fact.

I still think multiple shootings in a week is suspicious. You can't have a normal news day anymore, it's always some major crisis.

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