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#591 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns N' Roses, Jack White set for Bridge School Benefit » 662 weeks ago
Its bullshit, since that is how Axl always sounds now, its just an excuse.
#592 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns N' Roses, Jack White set for Bridge School Benefit » 662 weeks ago
There are plenty of older singers (over 50) who still sound good, the reason axl doesnt is because he doesnt PRACTICE. If he did he could sound good.
As for me complaining the past few years, that is because axl has not dont shit to praise.
He will disappear like he always does,f then come back, I will give him another chance and he will be a disaster, so I give up again.
There is always hope one day that Axl will get his shit together but I guess not.
Adele sucks bro
Do u know Axl's practice regime for sure? We don't know, at least I don't, and I don't pretend to
The man is 50 he ain't gonna change, what u see is what u get
Adele is one of the best singers in the world. And axl has not practice regime. If he did he would sound a lot better than that. And when ever the band members talk about practice Axl is never there. It was like that in the 90s too. Axl never practiced EVER since the UYI days
#593 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns N' Roses, Jack White set for Bridge School Benefit » 662 weeks ago
Ali wrote:dave-gnfnr wrote:You have no clue, Adele is a way better singer than axl, and Axls range is way more than hers (Axl is like what 4 maybe 5 vs Adele being a 3). Adele is one of the best singers in the world and doesnt have the range of Axl.
You have no clue.
I understand the distinction between range and vocal tone or quality. I'm not arguing that. But, to say that range has nothing to do with singing, when it is something that can be broadened with vocal exercises, i.e. singing, is absurd.
Ali
as you age your voice changes....it happens all the time axl is trying to sing like he did when he was 28, maybe he needs to adjust? maybe he just wants to keep doin what he is is doin
Vince neil (the times i have seen him live he has had a tough time, but i've just seen his solo act not crue
steven tyler sounds like crap compared to the 90's but he is older, at least on the recordings i have heard fromt he last couple albums, i havent seen any live footage from areosmith in ages
robert [plant had zeppelin retranspose everything down so he could hit the notes when they did their reunion crap)
hetfeild sounds different in recent years compared to the 90's
mick jagger is another who sounds differentshit happens man, body's change when they get old
hell maybe if gnr changed the tuning oftheir guitars from eb to d or up to e we would even have this discussion
as for davegnfr, you've been a whiny bitch for years and the only time i see you log in is to complain so dont play the "woe is me, i'm disappointed, not negative" card
anyway off to watch the gig
There are plenty of older singers (over 50) who still sound good, the reason axl doesnt is because he doesnt PRACTICE. If he did he could sound good.
As for me complaining the past few years, that is because axl has not dont shit to praise.
He will disappear like he always does,f then come back, I will give him another chance and he will be a disaster, so I give up again.
There is always hope one day that Axl will get his shit together but I guess not.
#594 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns N' Roses, Jack White set for Bridge School Benefit » 662 weeks ago
dave-gnfnr wrote:Ali wrote:You have no clue what you're saying when you say range has nothing to do with singing.
Ali
You have no clue, Adele is a way better singer than axl, and Axls range is way more than hers (Axl is like what 4 maybe 5 vs Adele being a 3). Adele is one of the best singers in the world and doesnt have the range of Axl.
You have no clue.
I understand the distinction between range and vocal tone or quality. I'm not arguing that. But, to say that range has nothing to do with singing, when it is something that can be broadened with vocal exercises, i.e. singing, is absurd.
Ali
What I am saying is vocal range has nothing to do with who sounds better as a singer. Someone with less range can sound way better than someone with a massive range.
Like I said Adele is a better singer and sounds better than Axl in his prime but Axl has a better range than her.
#595 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns N' Roses, Jack White set for Bridge School Benefit » 662 weeks ago
Axls voice is not in shape, that is why he cant sing. Its also why he sounds better at the end of the tour than the beginning, because his voice is almost in shape by the end. Just think if he trained for a few months before going on tour.
And he did have a great natural voice (just look at the demo of dont cry) when his voice is his shape, but if you dont use it, you lose it
#596 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns N' Roses, Jack White set for Bridge School Benefit » 662 weeks ago
dave-gnfnr wrote:Ali wrote:You clearly know nothing about singing if you think vocal range has nothing to do with singing. It's something that can be developed through training.
Ali
Vocal range has NOTHING to do with singing at all.
It does not matter how good your range IS or WAS, you can have someone with little vocal range sound BETTER than someone that has a better vocal range.Just take eddie vedder and axl tonight.
Axl has a much bigger vocal range yet eddie vedder sounded better.Axl has a better vocal range than Mark Foster from Foster the people but Mark blows Axl out of the water when it comes to singing.
You have no clue what you're saying when you say range has nothing to do with singing.
Ali
You have no clue, Adele is a way better singer than axl, and Axls range is way more than hers (Axl is like what 4 maybe 5 vs Adele being a 3). Adele is one of the best singers in the world and doesnt have the range of Axl.
You have no clue.
#597 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns N' Roses, Jack White set for Bridge School Benefit » 662 weeks ago
Its not pushing he cant sing in his natural voice. Listen to Nov Rain from rio, that is his natural voice and its all over the place. His voice is very thin now and even his reg voice sounds weak. If he would pratice iam sure his normal range would sound good but he doesnt and that is the problem.
#598 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns N' Roses, Jack White set for Bridge School Benefit » 662 weeks ago
RussTCB wrote:a bunch of people on the internet hoping and wishing for failure??
Not sure if that's the case Russ, I think it just seems like that.
I think most of the negative posters would really love Axl to come out and fucking lay out their ears like he used to do in 2006, and 9 and of course back in the hey day as well.
I guess some people are negative for the hell of it...but notice how when there's a new song leak or something of that nature for a while everyone gets excited and happy.
It's because most people WANT gnr to be good...and they want new music...but we don't get new music...for a reason that's never been explained other than in a "fuck us stop asking for it" way...and so we have to make do with live versions of old songs...so then when something about the old song sounds off....it's extra upsetting....but I dont think these people want negativity...I think they're just depressed at how things turn out.
Exactly, if a killer leak came out, we would be praising it.
The problem is there are way more lows than highs with Gnr. And some people like Russ are more willing to be less negative about the lows than others.
#599 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns N' Roses, Jack White set for Bridge School Benefit » 662 weeks ago
dave-gnfnr wrote:war wrote:i dont agree.
tylers natural range is higher
axls natural range is lowerthey are different types of voices
axl used to reach the notes tyler still does and had a larger range
but tyler never could reach the lower notes
age, care, etc are all given as reasons for that but dont make a difference for....
the fact remains axl has lost that upper range
you can say tyler is better in the long run and ur half right
lower degree of difficulty and ability but tyler is better off because he can still sing his own material properly
vocal range has NOTHING to do with singing or how good you sound. Axl cant even sing low anymore as well, his lower register is awful.
Axl doesnt even need his upper register for most of the stuff he played tonight and he was still terrible.
You clearly know nothing about singing if you think vocal range has nothing to do with singing. It's something that can be developed through training.
Ali
Vocal range has NOTHING to do with singing at all.
It does not matter how good your range IS or WAS, you can have someone with little vocal range sound BETTER than someone that has a better vocal range.
Just take eddie vedder and axl tonight.
Axl has a much bigger vocal range yet eddie vedder sounded better.
Axl has a better vocal range than Mark Foster from Foster the people but Mark blows Axl out of the water when it comes to singing.
#600 Re: GN'R Downloads » GNR - 2012's Bridge School Benefit (Video) » 662 weeks ago
what kind of files
