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#601 Re: Guns N' Roses » GNR to tour Brazil in 2008?? » 897 weeks ago
The problem is they don't do anything that is fan related! They don't release records, they don't do interviews, and they rarely tour. From a fan standpoint, I don't care who their manager is or whether or not someone lost a bike....I only care about new products or shows they are going to do. Everything else is just personal bullshit or business related bullshit.
Come now, ol' chum.
They release new music in ways that leave NIN and Radiohead to shame, as never before have so many unreleased studio versions and a physical album have been so far between. Axl's the ultimate bad boy from a labels point of view: he spends years crafting tunes which represent a melting pot of the wide array of styles he's picked up during the years, pouring in label money to an excessive degree. When he finally gives the fans a taste, the label is left out of the equation, as (quoting Tom Zutaut) "he was never motivated by money. He consistently put the quality of his artistic output above all." To Axl, money is not an object, and while representing the antithesis of his former self, the eponymous rock star, he shows disregard to the corporate giant which is Universal in ways that would make the late Kurt give an enthusiastic salute.
By rarely giving interviews and communicating mainly through 'inside' posts in you-know-where, Axl invites us to contribute to this strange saga, handing it out as a self-censoring secret, as knowledge only available for those who care. Axl isn't interested in sharing his views of the world, he prefers to communicate with initiates bold enough to stomach the answers. This also explains why he uses his website in an ass-backwards way: GNR never confirm what they do, but they're sure to tell you what they won't do. Sometimes they do it anyway, if only to throw the self-righteous music journalists off balance.
They rarely tour and sometimes Axl learns he should be touring by exploring "the big garbage can", namely the internet. That's just the beauty of it all. Following the UYI world tour, tours have become events, and by now have a life of their own. That's why GNR may actually be 'touring', without the band even being there! Axl cunningly alludes to this by mentioning "GNR (and a typhoon) hit Japan". This is a roundabout way of saying the tours are like a force of nature, which don't really require an actual band in the eye of the storm - they occur anyway. One day you may encounter a tornado or an earthquake in your neighborhood, or you may walk past a venue and notice GNR's playing. Either way, it's a day to remember.
"He's reinvented himself yet again." -Baz
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Don't tell me it's that hard to grasp.
#602 Re: The Garden » Read any good books lately? » 897 weeks ago
Nick Cave: And the Ass saw the Angel
Nick Cave's a rather decent fiction writer. I recommend you to check out his screenplays with John Hillcoat (prison movie Ghosts of the Civil Dead and the Outback western The Proposition). And the Ass saw the Angel is pretty much in line with the vicious attitude and nailbiting images of Ghosts and lyrics in the Cave's Birthday Party-era. A surreal tale of a mute boy born into the outskirts of a fiercely religious farming community, to a blind-drunk and obese mother and a psychopathic trapper father. Forever the outcast due to both his physical condition and his inward mind, Euchrid grows up in violence, vilified by the community. He does what any sensible person would do in that condition. He finds God.
Structurally, Cave's prose can be roughly divided into three parts. The first part contains very short chapters, mostly a page or two. Cave offers various snapshots of the inbred oddballs that live alongside Euchrid, keeping the reader hooked with fast-paced narrative, switching his focus point constantly to keep the reader hooked to see what deranged wonders be lurk on the next page. While the first part illustrates the obvious learning curve in his writing, Cave begins to spread his wings more boldly in the middle, offering up a worthy adversary in the form of the charlatan preacher man, Abie Poe. The minutely detailed world now begins to breathe as we remain with the events for longer periods of time, and the last part, where Euchrid finally puts God's plan into action, is told as a one long chunk of text.
A very entertaining read, which, by using its cinematic contemporaries, could perhaps be described as a cross between Witness and The Stone Boy - directed by Rob Zombie.
#603 Re: Guns N' Roses » Official - No Reality Show » 897 weeks ago
To be honest, it's been "official" for a while that no reality show is coming... Jarmo's been saying it since the rumour started. The rest of the stuff in the original article was never proven false... Nor was it deemed false that the Axl was approached to do a reality show.
Aye, that be true.
It's not a stretch to imagine a GNR reality show was pitched within a network/production company, and the concept was met favorably enough to approach Axl and his management with the idea. Given that Axl seemingly wants to keep a veil of secrecy over every significant thing he's actually doing, the word trickling out did no favors to the people who were coaxing him to agree.
Then again, their line is that a reality TV programme (which, signed or not, is basically good publicity) is more worthy of comment than the Robin situation (which is getting out of hand on the boards, if not elsewhere). I wouldn't expect them to put anything on the NIN tour to the official website, but they could at least comment through Jarmo/Beta/whomever.
Just goes on to say on what matters they have a clear idea.
#604 Re: Guns N' Roses » Official - No Reality Show » 897 weeks ago
About as useful as the verbose Axl statement about GNR not being in Live Earth. That event was never announced, never mentioned as a rumor in the mainstream press outlets. All who knew about were the people in the forums. Then the announcement hits the official website and the most common reaction amongst most people, after the slightly confused amusent, was "So what?".
While they're at it, howabout saying 'despite rumors to the contrary, there are no tour dates or album release planned for this year'?
#605 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » On the search for a new frontman: » 898 weeks ago
i would say that slash more than likely worked with matt & duff (and prolly dave too) on that mateial
Slash is a reliable workhorse if there ever was one, but in this case, Duff n' Matt have more likely been laying down the rhythm lines for the tracks. Slash and Dave probably have some tapes of their own, but they may have not begun crafting songs out of them yet. It does sound like they intend to have a backlog of working material available when they get together again.
yes i think Slash will start on his solo album...hes not one to wait around
Knowing Slash, it can happen very fast and not postpone the recording of the next VR album. I'm akin to believe both Slash and Duff agreed they'd do their own thing for a while, to get it out of their systems and start afresh with a vocalist later in the year.
#606 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » On the search for a new frontman: » 898 weeks ago
"I'm currently finishing up the UK/Euro leg on the VELVET REVOLVER tour and we have played some of the most inspired gigs of my lifetime in the last couple of weeks. Been writing a ton of music too and generally have just been wholly re-inspired music-wise."
He added, "LOADED looks to record a follow-up to 'Dark Days' here in late April or so and we are totally looking forward to just hanging with each other again."
VR news: I just left Matt's where we laid down 12 new jams'¦.KILLER! Kick ass people!
Interesting.
Duff and Matt have written some new VR material already, while Loaded will keep Duff busy throughout the summer. They have someone they've tested as Scott's replacement in between the US and UK tour legs (February 7th - March 7th). I'd wager VR will reactivate in the fall at the earliest, to break in a new vocalist and record an album.
Wonder if Slash will begin work on his solo album as well?
#607 Re: Guns N' Roses » If Finck is gone..... » 898 weeks ago
So now that you all hate me for saying all that. Why don't we address why we have 3 guitarists on the album anyway? Is it part of some grand political statement from the band? I don't believe so. I think its basicly because Robin - as talented as he is - is NOT good enough to be the lead guitarist in GNR. Or he refuses to play in the traditional style for those songs. Now I know I'll get flamed to hell for saying that. But hear me out. Robin has some definate skills and beautiful sound - which I guess is why he was never fired from the band - hell he wrote "better" which is a kickass song, and the AWESOME solo in the "The Blues", and i'd guess some other great stuff on the album. So i'm not a total hater of him.
Now, I'm a stern supporter of Robin and his personal style. But.
While a part of me might hate to admit it, you do have a point there. While Robin has a distinctive style, stage presence and some obvious writing skills, he's not the kind of guy you put next to Slash. One reason for this is obviously apples and oranges; Slash is the bona fide guitar hero, one of the worlds finest in what he does. To challenge that sort of a monster is daunting for anyone, and to make matters "worse", Robin in many ways has different semantics as player. He's not Slash and if anyone dares to think otherwise, he's quick to put such illusions to bed.
I think the reason Robin has been in the band for so long (particularly vital is his return in '00), is that Axl got into his playing and decided to devise a new GNR sound partially around it. If Brian May and Dave Navarro would've been involved during his Fragility stint because Axl considered Robin to be a total slacker, he would've never been re-hired. His parts would've been redone by someone else, while he would've gotten some writing credits.
There's another reason for Navarro, May and Bucket coexisting with Robin, I believe. And that's really the simple equation: Robin, while a capable performer and song writer, isn't a guitar hero the way that term can be applied to the aforementioned chaps (and Slash). If you listen to the '99 demos of IRS and TWAT (by Axl/Robin/Huge/Tommy/Freese/Dizzy), you get basically the same songs, only without the riveting Bucket solos. It's not a question whether guys like Robin, Paul and Tommy couldn't write solid songs. It's just that the band was still lacking that secret ingredient which was Slash in the days of Coma, Estranged and November Rain. It's a tall order to record a solo that would not only compliment the existing work, but also elevate it to a stage where people could say it can be put against any similar GNR song of the old days, without people going "where's Slash?"
It's not about beating Slash in his own game. It's more about the fact that GNR has always had a rather traditional (yet solid) song structure underneath, above which are Axl's distinctive vocals and Slash's solos. While Robin & co were able to provide the foundation for that work, they fell short in creating solos that could truly provide a counterpart for Axl's long wails. After trying old favorites Navarro and May, Axl struck gold with the inclusion of Buckethead, who was able to go just as outlandish as Axl dared to ask - he was truly the 'Slash of the new lineup', so to speak, having the moniker of a guitar hero while fitting into this particular fold much better than Slash would've ever did.
It was also a pleasure to see Robin and Bucket together. Robin seemed to have caught up fast; he was the 'leading man', while Bucket was the bands secret weapon, who was able to make the bands overall sound much better without appearing tacked-on. Guess Robin was relieved about it as well - he got the best of both worlds, playing lead in GNR while maintaining his personal sound. For everything else, there was Bucket. He probably sounded even a bit too confident about it with the "interpretation" of the solos you speak of. Would be nice to know how Bucket's resignation affected Robin, as a player and a band member.
But I take it Robin knows what he is and what he's not. With some of his versions of the old songs, he would've been a bad fit to the old band. Just as Slash would be a bad fit to this one.
But maybe two guitars is enough.
Robin and Bucket. For heightened effect, there's always Pittman, ready to deliver a preprogrammed boost.
And if we'd now be down to Richard and Ron in a live setting, all I can say is that the combined talent and potential in the band just took another step down.
#608 Re: Guns N' Roses » Robin back in NIN. Temp or not is the question? » 898 weeks ago
Didn't say that.
Just pointing out that members of the previous lineup have made things comparable to the dogpoo episode, et al. Eccentric antics aren't exactly an uncommon thing in this band, or the rock world in general. Therefore I wouldn't label Bucket a 'freak', because of the negative tone of the word. Eccentric? Yes.
#609 Re: Guns N' Roses » Robin back in NIN. Temp or not is the question? » 898 weeks ago
You know...if I wanted to leave a band but I couldnt because I was under contract...that would just make me leave even more.
I believe Bucket left in '04 because his contract was up. He did see through the Dec 31st 03 deadline, which was the last straw for Geffen. Robin did the same thing in '99. Also, you can always quit your contract, just like in any other job, but unless you're absolutely adamant about leaving and are willing to take in the possible financial penalties, it's not a straightforward process.
Contract players are around due to mutual agreement, they're not slave labor. In this situation, any good employer will enter discussions with his subordinate in case he wants to continue the arrangement.
sic. wrote:Bucket was leaving in late '01, Axl took him to Disneyland and talked him over.
BH's a freak but he's a good guitar player.
To each his own.
Other people have indulged in substance abuse. Not really all that admirable, when you start to think about it.
#610 Re: Guns N' Roses » Robin back in NIN. Temp or not is the question? » 898 weeks ago
Bucket was leaving in early '01, Tom Zutaut talked him into sticking around.
Bucket was leaving in late '01, Axl took him to Disneyland and talked him over.