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#601 Re: Guns N' Roses » December 16, Key Arena- Seattle, WA » 706 weeks ago
DCK wrote:YCBM is a very hard song to sing, and as has been the norm on this tour, YCBM doesn't fit Axl's voice well. The rest of the songs does.
It's my theory that YCBM and (some nights) SCoM are kind of "voice resting" songs. Like he doesn't put everything he can into those to sort of take it easy for a tune. And if that is actually the case, I'm completely ok with it when the dude is turning in 3 hour shows every night where the rest of the performance is damn near flawless.
Yeah, I think he uses his head voice more on those songs, perhaps, rather than pushing his chest voice or blending the two. I like the cleaner vocal tone and since Axl has such a well-developed vocal range, he can get more power/volume from his head voice than most singers.
Ali
#602 Re: Guns N' Roses » December 16, Key Arena- Seattle, WA » 706 weeks ago
Axlin08 wrote:You Could Be Mine (with special guest Duff McKagan)
Note: Duff on bass / no Tommy
ZERO interaction between Axl and Duff on stage.
Yeah, but there really wasn't any in London during the same song. It didn't really mean anything ultimately as they hung out after the show.
Ali
#603 Re: Guns N' Roses » Salt Lake City, UT - Maverik Center (Dec 13, 2011) » 706 weeks ago
How is it that at the 3 shows I went to this year, people were not only wearing Slash shirts, but at 2 of the 3 shows I saw at least one guy dressed as Slash? Is it possible I was at the only 3 shows on the tour where they didn't have this "No Slash Policy?"
No. It's probably just completely fabricated.
If it was a GN'R policy to ban Slash apparel, it would be a policy implemented at EVERY show, not random shows.
Ali
#604 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns N Roses OFFICIALLY inducted into Rock n Roll Hall of Fame » 706 weeks ago
-D- wrote:notice how he didn't call it Guns N Roses! hmmmmmmm
Surprised? I'm not. And I'll bet nobody are. And all those currently in the band are prolly least surprised and totally fine with Duff calling it whatever i wants to.
http://blogs.seattleweekly.com/reverb/2 … ements.php
Duff: "About a week and a half ago, I had the pleasure of hanging out with Tommy Stinson. For those of you who don't know, he is the guy who replaced me in Guns N' Roses."
He has called the band Guns N' Roses.
Ali
#605 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns N Roses OFFICIALLY inducted into Rock n Roll Hall of Fame » 706 weeks ago
Ali wrote:You're continuing on with your straw man argument. I never said ANYTHING about GN'R going in with or without CD. My point was that one album argument is A) completely moot for the original band, B) statistically anomalous based on the artists currently inducted.
Go ahead and argue what is likely or not. We'll never, ever know for sure. And Christ almighty, I don't know where in the hell you got I was saying that CD was a part of why GN'R got inducted. I said nothing of the sort
Ali
The idea of Gn'R getting in based off AFD credentials alone is much more valid than the idea that CD played a part in their induction. Everyone knew they were going in by 1995 and had they only released AFD I'm pretty sure they'd still be going in ala Sex Pistols but yes we will never know for sure. What we do know for sure is CD played no part in their induction. NONE because we all knew by 1994 Guns N' Roses was gonan get inducted at some point so....
Your "yeah but" approach to it simple trys to deflect away from that fact and lend credance to the idea CD was a contirbuting factor.
You asked how many bands have gotten in off one album I gave ya an answer and then suggested two other bands that more than likley would've gotten in based off their debut/breakout album alone. You went into statistics and anomolies and blah blah blah. You always ask for examples or refrences and then when someone points them out it's never to your liking
I think it's pretty clear to me by now you enjoy engaging in the straw man argument. I have never said that I think CD was a contributing factor. Clearly, by the members being inducted, it was not a contributing factor in the RRHOF's decision to induct GN'R.
I was merely pointing out that based on the facts alone, it is highly unusual for a band to be inducted on the basis of one album alone. That is fact.
Your examples/references are completely irrelevant because you are giving examples of two bands that you THINK, not KNOW, would be inducted based on one album alone. The problem is that Nirvana and the old GN'R did NOT release only one studio album. I happen to think that In Utero is every bit as good as Nevermind, if not better.
Ali
#606 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns N Roses OFFICIALLY inducted into Rock n Roll Hall of Fame » 706 weeks ago
Ali wrote:The Sex Pistols are the EXCEPTION not the RULE. The arguments about what would have happened with GN'R with only AFD and Nirvana are completely moot because the fact is that the old GN'R and Nirvana did NOT release only studio album. So, it's impossible to know what would have happened.
My point was not to "dance around" that CD played no part in their induction. My point was, and still stands, that the vast majority of artists inducted did not release only one studio album by which they are judged. Therefore, judging whether or not a band would've been inducted on the basis of one album is unlikely to begin with based on the sheer statistics currently available.
Ali
Stand by your opinion/point all you want. Everyone and their dog knows Gn'R was going in with or without CD and it's likely AFD would've put them in the hall all on it's own. To think that is a much better assumption than what you're trying to get at.
You're continuing on with your straw man argument. I never said ANYTHING about GN'R going in with or without CD. My point was that one album argument is A) completely moot for the original band, B) statistically anomalous based on the artists currently inducted.
Go ahead and argue what is likely or not. We'll never, ever know for sure. And Christ almighty, I don't know where in the hell you got I was saying that CD was a part of why GN'R got inducted. I said nothing of the sort 
Ali
#607 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns N Roses OFFICIALLY inducted into Rock n Roll Hall of Fame » 706 weeks ago
Yeah but if u can really step back and take the blinders off... It has ONLY about 5-6 really good songs on it. Nothing on that album i would classify legendary or great. Collection of vrey good songs an a few below average ones.
No offense, but do you understand the difference between a quantifiable, absolute fact and personal preference/opinion?
It is YOUR OPINION that there are only 5 or 6 good songs on CD. That has nothing to do with "blinders". It's a matter of personal preference and opinion.
Ali
#608 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns N Roses OFFICIALLY inducted into Rock n Roll Hall of Fame » 706 weeks ago
Guys
GNR hadn't released an original studio album in 17 years
Radio stations, EVERYBODY was giving this the royal treatment.
STILL
Not even a number 1 rock single.
STP released an avg song "Between The Lines" after years apart and the damn thing broke records for number of adds. Chili Peppers came out with Rain Dance Maggie which is an OK song.. and it hit number 1....
That is the BIG indictment.
U HAVE TO PUT UR FANDOM ASIDE
Sure, to us, Axl could release a bluegrass album and we'd treat it like Darkside.
When u lay it all out. CD was a catastrophic failure. Do i love it? Yeah but my opinion means shit.
I don't see what you're trying to say. If it's what I think it is, commercial success is not an indication of quality. Hence the absence of commercial success does not equate to the absence of quality.
Ali
#609 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns N Roses OFFICIALLY inducted into Rock n Roll Hall of Fame » 706 weeks ago
Ali wrote:-D- wrote:I look at it like this
If GNR quit after UYI, would they be in the HOF? YES
If GNR's only album they ever put out was Chinese Democracy, would they be a HOF band? NO
How many bands do you know of that were inducted into the the RRHOF on the basis of only one album anyway?
Ali
Sex Pistols
A GN'R influence too.
Yes, but clearly the exception, not the rule.
Ali
#610 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns N Roses OFFICIALLY inducted into Rock n Roll Hall of Fame » 706 weeks ago
Ali wrote:-D- wrote:I look at it like this
If GNR quit after UYI, would they be in the HOF? YES
If GNR's only album they ever put out was Chinese Democracy, would they be a HOF band? NO
How many bands do you know of that were inducted into the the RRHOF on the basis of only one album anyway?
Ali
Had Gn'R finished after AFD would they have be inducted into the RRHOF? In all likleyhood yes. Nirvana is going to go in based on pretty much Nevermind's success and impact alone. The Sex Pistols went in after releasing only one album. There's no dancing around the fact CD played no part in their induction. NONE.
It's not like Gn'R was a consideration for the Hall and then CD's release put them over the top.
The Sex Pistols are the EXCEPTION not the RULE. The arguments about what would have happened with GN'R with only AFD and Nirvana are completely moot because the fact is that the old GN'R and Nirvana did NOT release only studio album. So, it's impossible to know what would have happened.
My point was not to "dance around" that CD played no part in their induction. My point was, and still stands, that the vast majority of artists inducted did not release only one studio album by which they are judged. Therefore, judging whether or not a band would've been inducted on the basis of one album is unlikely to begin with based on the sheer statistics currently available.
Ali
