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#661 Re: Guns N' Roses » Santiago, Chile - October 5, 2011 » 716 weeks ago
Sorry.... this goes to something last night on HTGTH i just saw
Can you say overreaction to one bad show on the part of some people on these boards? Roll Eyes
Ali
I said how so?
How so? That one performance would necessarily be representative of ALL his performances. That Axl could not sing at all and that because of that one performance, he was done. That to me is an overreaction and taking one data point and incorrectly extrapolating it to be representative of something that it isn't. Like in 2002. The bad night at the VMAs were NOT representative of the entire US tour.
And, yes, I know that's my opinion. And none of that is to "excuse" how he performed at Rio 
Ali
#662 Re: Guns N' Roses » Santiago, Chile - October 5, 2011 » 716 weeks ago
Ali is very pro Axl, anti Slash, but does it in a way to where you think its an actual debate, when really it is not. If Buckethead played Slash's solos, and Slash played Bucket's, he (ALI) would say, "Man, Bucket's solos SMOKE Slash's, he has so much more feel and passion, anyone can play fast like Slash, but few have the emotion, passion, feel of bucket." I say that as a fan of Bucket, the dude is great, and I like his solos.. But you really can't hum, or sing his solos and they are not "that" memorable.. They are nice and tasty, but not "iconic" or "masterpieces". Even the casual fans would agree with that. People will always prop up their guy more. Bucket was an Axl guy. Axl is an Ali guy. So it makes sense, Ali will back Bucket before Slash...
I come from the camp that they are both great yet, VERY different styles.
Finck has some nice solos too, but live was often a debacle.
Ashba, so unoriginal it pains me to see.
Ron, takes his job serious, major chops, but I like Bucket's style better.
Fortus, can really play, not sure of writing skills, but the guy can play. Often has shitty tone though.
Damn, I can't believe the intolerance towards differing viewpoints here. I thought that's what made this place different. Not so much, apparently.
Being pro-Axl does not make one anti-Slash. Thinking Bucket is a better guitar player than Slash does not make one anti-Slash. Thinking Slash isn't the angel in contrast to Axl's devil, instead that they're both flawed individuals that have made mistakes like ever other human being on the planet, does not make one anti-Slash.
Like I said, if I was anti-Slash, I wouldn't have gotten every thing he's released since his GN'R days the day they were released (including the iTunes Sessions EP) and gone to see him every chance I got.
Try again, next time.
Ali
#663 Re: Guns N' Roses » Santiago, Chile - October 5, 2011 » 716 weeks ago
Ali wrote:Bono wrote:Oh COME ON!!! STFU. Are you honestly gonna sit there and tell us you basically love the half the CD album more than Estranged? And then tell us that Buckethead's solos on CD are as good or better than anything Slash has ever done?
Hey even if Axl reads this fourm you aren't going to be his friend! he's not gonna hang out with you.
People have lost their freaking minds!
Thank god I'm leaving for vacation on Saturday cause clearly what bugs me most is stupid posts, not the actions or inactions of the band
Your arrogance and condescension notwithstanding, that is my opinion. Not agreeing with your viewpoint doesn't mean I've lost my mind, nor does it make my posts "stupid".
To make matters worse, you didn't even read and comprehend what I wrote correctly. Perhaps try that next time.
Ali
What's there to cmprehend? I've been reading your riduclous posts for the last few days and you always have to back peddle on what you said. Your whole arguement about press not picking up the Rio show and then when it did it wasn't the right press for you and then when the right press(American radio) did it needed to be national print press. Now you say you like all those songs better than Estranged and then go on to say Bucketheads solo on CD are as good or better than ANYTHING Slash has ever done. What's there not to comprehend Ali? Your posts reak of the type of person who brings a "Fuck Slash" sign to a concert. You're no different than the people at HTGTH. You really aren't, save for the fact you're trying to act that way ina subtle manner over here yet you're not very subtle.
What in the hell are you talking about? I didn't backpeddle at all. I stated from the get go that the only way a poor Rio performance would affect US tour ticket sales was if a mainstream press outlet (US) covered the Rio festival. I went on to cite clear examples of that happening in 2001 when both MTV News and RS reviewed/covered GN'R's set. That hasn't happened here at all yet. The Aussie MTV site will clearly NOT be read by many people in the US. That's why it's the Aussie version of the site A radio station isn't a press outlet. That's stating a fact, not backpeddling.
And, again, you still miscontrued what I said to begin with. I never said I like those songs better than "Estranged". I agreed with Russ saying he liked them AS MUCH as "Estranged".
Ali
#664 Re: Guns N' Roses » Santiago, Chile - October 5, 2011 » 716 weeks ago
misterID wrote:Totally unnecessary, dude.
Gimme a break. Ali is clearly a troll who even calls people at HTGTH haters. Posts over at mygnr are also bullshit posts. Basically expresses the attitude of a "Fuck Slash" poster in disguise albeit terribley disguised Whatever though.
As for calling Naltav a loser... what can I say. Anyone who can't see through his bullshit needs help.
I'm a troll? Why is that? Because I don't share your opinion? Or is it because unlike you I don't make fun of people who don't share my opinion?
As far as me calling someone a hater, I did that last night in jest, clearly. Someone accused me of drinking kool aid and I said nope, not hater-ade either with a smiley afterwards, indicating the joking nature of what I wrote. Way to take what I wrote out of context and twist it around
I don't express the "Fuck Slash" attitude at all. A complete invention on your part. Just because I think Bucket is a better guitar player than Slash doesn't mean that Slash isn't my personal favorite guitar player of all time. If I had a "Fuck Slash" attitude as you so eloquently stated, I wouldn't have bought all of his post-GN'R albums and gone to see him live whenever I could.
Perhaps you could get your facts straight before you start making accusations next time.
Ali
#665 Re: Guns N' Roses » Santiago, Chile - October 5, 2011 » 716 weeks ago
Ali wrote:russtcb wrote:Yeah, I like The Blues, Better, TIL and Prostitute as much as Estranged.
Include TWAT in that list and I'm with you. Also, "Madagascar". As far as "epic solos", for me, I think Bucket's solo is as good as anything Slash has ever done. In fact, that may be the most stunning guitar solo I've ever heard. His solo on "Sorry" is just gorgeous, too. I love what Robin does in "Better" and "This I Love".
Ali
Oh COME ON!!! STFU. Are you honestly gonna sit there and tell us you basically love the half the CD album more than Estranged? And then tell us that Buckethead's solos on CD are as good or better than anything Slash has ever done?
Hey even if Axl reads this fourm you aren't going to be his friend! he's not gonna hang out with you.
People have lost their freaking minds!
Thank god I'm leaving for vacation on Saturday cause clearly what bugs me most is stupid posts, not the actions or inactions of the band
Your arrogance and condescension notwithstanding, that is my opinion. Not agreeing with your viewpoint doesn't mean I've lost my mind, nor does it make my posts "stupid".
To make matters worse, you didn't even read and comprehend what I wrote correctly. Perhaps try that next time.
Ali
#666 Re: Guns N' Roses » Santiago, Chile - October 5, 2011 » 716 weeks ago
-D- wrote:Im starting an old vs new and don't give a shit
Everytime I hear Estranged and then think about all the people who compared "ANYTHING" off CD to it.. I chuckle my ass off at the idiocy.
Sorry, completely random but everytime i hear those Slash guitar melodies/solos I think of that.
Estranged was one of those songs just ahead of its time when it has always been far superior to the other two of the trilogy.. people now appreciate its brilliance/epicness
Yeah, I like The Blues, Better, TIL and Prostitute as much as Estranged.
Include TWAT in that list and I'm with you. Also, "Madagascar". As far as "epic solos", for me, I think Bucket's solo is as good as anything Slash has ever done. In fact, that may be the most stunning guitar solo I've ever heard. His solo on "Sorry" is just gorgeous, too. I love what Robin does in "Better" and "This I Love".
Ali
#667 Re: Guns N' Roses » Santiago, Chile - October 5, 2011 » 716 weeks ago
Yep seems like its a big improvement, any fuck ups wont be as apparent anyway seeing as its not being beemed live around the world, but they were all better than what they produced on the big stage the other night, thats why it was so disapointing and it could only really get better.
Find it a bit weird that they have added yet another AC/DC song to the set... this is the guy who spent how many years and how many millions making how many records worth of new material? Throwing in a cover version at the end of the set is a fun idea, but to have so many seems kind of weak.
Pretty disapointed to be honest, even if they dust off OMG it seems like they are scraping the barrel for ideas, and the reality of the elusive follow up album is its just mad notion in the minds of a few nutty online fans.
Infact I couldnt care less if they start breaking out Coma, Locomotive, The Garden, Breakdown etc - thats the old bands accomplishments, by now this line up should be living and dying by their own work.
If you're disappointed by the fact that the band isn't playing any new songs, well, I can understand that from the fan's and the band's perspective. On one hand, obviously we want to hear new material. On the other hand, history has shown that if the band plays a new song live, it will spread all over the internet and the fans will get attached to that working version. I can see how the band wouldn't want to do that.
Regardless, the track "Going Down" is likely not "Ain't Goin' Down" and doesn't seem like any potential cover song I know of, so maybe that is a new song that may be played at some point in the future.
Ali
#668 Re: Guns N' Roses » Santiago, Chile - October 5, 2011 » 716 weeks ago
I'm not saying he looks like he's in tip top shape by any means, but I look at this picture and I can't help but think, "where is the alleged huge amount of weight gain?"
Ali
#669 Re: Guns N' Roses » Santiago, Chile - October 5, 2011 » 716 weeks ago
Olorin wrote:Axlin08 wrote:And that's the show. Thanks to Caroline and CDWT over on Twitter for setlist updates, and Del James and others for pics.
Full setlist:
Setlist:
01 Chinese Democracy
02 Welcome to the Jungle
03 It's So Easy
04 Mr. Brownstone
05 Sorry
06 Better
--- Richard Fortus Guitar Solo [James Bond Theme]
07 Live and Let Die
08 This I Love
09 Estranged
10 Rocket Queen
--- Dizzy Reed Piano Solo
11 Street of Dreams
12 You Could Be Mine
--- DJ Ashba Guitar Solo
13 Sweet Child O' Mine
--- Jam [Another Brick in the Wall Part II]
14 November Rain
--- Bumblefoot Guitar Solo [Pink Panther Theme]
15 Don't Cry
16 Riff Raff [AC/DC cover]
17 Knockin' On Heaven's Door
18 NightrainENCORE:
19 Patience
20 Paradise CityThat cant be entirely accurate, they played Rosie and allegedly Madagascar as well...
He sounds terrible right there. 2002 helium on an AC/DC song is garbage.
Terrible? I think that's a gross exaggeration. The "helium" you're referring to is his head voice, which in reality he should use to hit the higher notes as opposed to straining his chest voice or poorly blending his chest and head voice.
Regardless, from everything I've heard I can confidently say that Rio was just an off night and Axl will be fine.
Ali
#670 Re: Guns N' Roses » Santiago, Chile - October 5, 2011 » 716 weeks ago
the band and crowd seem pretty happy here and Tommy is loaded!..birthday celebration at end
Seems like a really good vibe there with the band. That's cool 
Ali
