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#682 Re: Guns N' Roses » The Devil Woman of Lafayette » 422 weeks ago

If Axl wanted to be in a recording booth, he would be.

He'd make accommodations at one of the many studios across the globe. Maybe yell at a manager or two about it.

If Axl wanted to release music, he would.

He would have a chat with Slash and Duff and take the steps to make it happen.

But he doesn't. He wants to tour and make money.

For. Ev. Ver.

#683 Re: Guns N' Roses » The Creative Crisis of Guns N' Roses » 422 weeks ago

You're right about the 2006 VMA thing. It was pretty awkward and the only mention of the album was backstage which I think only aired on MTV2.

I largely agree about 2002 being the end point, especially considering time would show it'd alienate Buckethead and that a good chunk of the material would lose it's character and relevance the further you get from industrial/numetal rule. That said, the 2006 Tour effectively wiped all the bad memories of 2002 away. Axl shows up looking and sounding like a rockstar, George Chin is conveniently placed in the pit to snap a picture, and there are 3 killer tracks that fans can download off of the internet to get jacked about the record. And Izzy!

In the words of Chuck Klosterman, "Axl Rose never needed a face full of Botox or Vernon Reid's hair or five years in the deserts of Sedona. He just needed to try". And Axl Rose was finally trying.

I remember reading reviews of the leaks from people who didn't like Gn'R giving it a thumbs up. This isn't the far reaching promotion and one person's account is relative but it showed he was, at a time, actually relevant again and to the internet generation, no less. But Axl just couldn't get out of his own way. There was a 2.5 year gap (two-and-a-half-fuckin'-years!!) between the most pop-friendly songs being consumed by the general public and the album actually being released.

The wheels came off when you have your goof toadie roadie waxing poetic about the rawk and roll lifestyle and filibustering about Bumblefoot and Frank lending their talents to songs written a decade prior. And everyone who reads Rolling Stone knew that the band was happy with the Andy Wallace mixes, so much so that the album was played in full at a Spectre-tier mystery party at Dr. Axl's hide-a-way mansion.

To contradict myself, the true last chance saloon was Axl promising up-and-down throughout 2006 that was that the year and then failing to deliver the goods. For another year and a half. Then the real joke began...

James Lofton wrote:

That Harley shirt up there? Zero chance it gets pulled last second like the Better Harley ad....

It seemed another example of Axl getting cold feet when it came time to deliver.

#684 Re: Guns N' Roses » The Creative Crisis of Guns N' Roses » 422 weeks ago

Ragnar wrote:

Axl was crushed by the lukewarm reception Chinese Democracy received.

It was a non-repeatable event. He should be smart enough to realize that.

A marketing campaign, functional website, clear band member list, said member list spelled correctly, band photographs, social media, and more would've done wonders for it. It didn't need the world but it needed the basics, at least.

You get the impression Azoff tried to do his best, MySpace and whatnot, but was given the ball when the team had gotten too far behind in the game already well the 4th quarter.

Ragnar wrote:

He has no motivation to release anything

I'm inclined to agree but his comments at the China Exchange interview seem to suggest otherwise.

Has he talked that over with Slash and Duff? Has it been "decided upon"? Has he stopped thinking about it because all the sweet, sweet cash?

#685 Re: Guns N' Roses » The Creative Crisis of Guns N' Roses » 422 weeks ago

Another point in case:

Harley Davidson wrote:

MILWAUKEE, AUG 8, 2017 – In honor of this century’s most anticipated and celebrated tour making its way back to the United States, Harley-Davidson is pleased to announce the launch of a special capsule collection, in conjunction with the Guns N’ Roses Not In This Lifetime Tour. 

Available in early August, the limited-edition line of men and women’s wear, created in partnership with Bravado International Group, Inc., will be sold exclusively at Harley-Davidson dealerships around the world.

http://blog.motorcycle.com/2017/08/08/m … ollection/

#686 Re: The Sunset Strip » What Are You Listening To? » 422 weeks ago

James Lofton wrote:

How do you have a big enough budget for your video to hire Joan Severance yet only use her minimally? It was the 80s. Put her in just about every second of that video and it moves at least 20-30k more copies of your album.

I'm unfamiliar with the details behind that shoot but the visual effects matte composites and stage setup/rigging/pyro would cost far more than Joan Severance even in she were fully featured.

It was likely a shoot out, meaning they shot all of Joan's scenes in a short time frame. Honestly, that looks like a days work at most, half a day if the crew were prepared.

Good storytellers are hard to find. It's partly why most music videos were simulated concert and T&A montages.

#687 Re: GN'R Downloads » Chinese Democracy alternative album covers » 422 weeks ago

James Lofton wrote:

Not bad at all. You're right....its an improvement.

Thanks.

The bike could've been a good cover but whomever took the picture (Terry Hardin, whoever that is) is clearly not a trained photographer. It looks like it's a cover for a record called The Golden Basket.

The Red Hand is the best cover and even recalls Appetite For Destruction's original cover however it doesn't fit the songs on the album.

#689 Re: Guns N' Roses » Breaking Down The Loot » 422 weeks ago

zombux wrote:

you've just made my day.

Glad I could bring some smiles.

New subtitle for ya. Fixed some things that were bothering me. Click for notorious biggie size.

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#690 Guns N' Roses » Breaking Down The Loot » 422 weeks ago

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Loot Breakdown Machine™:

  • 2016 tour profit = $40.4 million

  • 2016 tour profit margin = 21.04%

  • 2016 music profit = ~$2.00 million

  • 2017 tour profit (TD, estimated) = $31.8 million

  • 2017 tour profit (total, estimated) = $59.75 million +/- $6mil*

  • 2016-2017 tour profit (total, estimated) = $100.15 million

Sources:

Quartz via Billboard Boxscore, 7/20/2017 wrote:

Guns N’ Roses made $42.2 million in 2016, according to recently released Billboard stats...

Source: https://qz.com/1032602/guns-n-roses-are … s-beyonce/
Source: http://www.billboard.com/photos/7865108 … ney-makers

Billboard, 2/3/2017 wrote:

With the final 2016 dates of Guns N’ Roses’ Not in This Lifetime… reunion tour reported to Billboard Boxscore, the trek’s total gross now stands at a whopping $192 million.

Source: http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/ … llion-fans

Musicfeeds, 7/19/2017 wrote:

According to Pollstar, Guns N' Roses ‘Not In This Lifetime’ tour has grossed a huge USD $151.5 million this year.

Source: http://musicfeeds.com.au/news/guns-n-ro … -2017-far/

Caveats and Super Secret Magic Formula:

  • The +/-$6mil accounts for 5 NA dates and 4 SA dates not included in calculations

  • The estimated ticket sales is based off of venue numbers for end stage concerts

  • 2017 Estimated Profit formula = ((Estimated Ticket Sales x Average Ticket Price) + Current Gross TD)) * Estimated Profit Margin

Billboard wrote:

The band was able to rack up... $2 million in music sales and streams as well.

For comparison, Beyoncé released a new album in 2016, one that was officially declared the best-selling album of the year at that, and still only brought in $7.7 million from those categories.

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