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#691 Re: Guns N' Roses » When's Album? » 422 weeks ago

Gong wrote:

The dream is over.

I dreamed a dream of times gone by
When leaks were nigh and boards worth posting
I dreamed that Robins would forever fly
I dreamed that albums would be forthcoming

Then Axl was young and unassuaged
And riffs were made and used and wasted
There was no mansion to be paid
No songs undone, no shows lambasted

But the misers come at night
With their voices rising asunder
As they tear your record apart
As they turn your dream to shame

Bucket toured a summer by my side
He filled my bridge with endless wonder
He took my solo spot in his stride
But he was gone when Rio came
And still I dream he'll come to me
That we will shred the frets together
But there are dreams that cannot be
And there are projects we cannot weather

I had a dream of what Guns could be
So different from this hell I'm living
So different now from what it seemed
Now that Rose has killed
The dream I dreamed

#692 Re: Guns N' Roses » When's Album? » 422 weeks ago

zombux wrote:

in my very humble opinion, there's just the nostalgia tour in 2017, possibly also a couple of more years. by that time they will become tired with all the thing and the whole thing collapses, without any real recording or even releasing.

A new album cobbled together from the most conservative songs left in the vault / unfinished by the old band seems the most plausible of the implausible, near miraculous scenarios.

apex-twin wrote:

From Robin's viewpoint, it was around 68 songs done, as he'd be done with recording them. But 14 new songs since '99 is a lot. Axl broached that the next autumn in a UK show.

"You'll get 18 songs, and about 10 extra tracks."

Nothing new of course but all you can do is sigh.

apex-twin wrote:

Pretty much the entire A-list of '99. It sort of suggests to me that during the Village years, Axl was winding down on an EDM album and opting the delve the funky sounds of Bucket and Brain instead.

It fits the chinese whispers I heard back in the day about unfinished / material that will never be released. Such a waste.

#693 Re: Guns N' Roses » The Creative Crisis of Guns N' Roses » 422 weeks ago

Thread point, meet case:

Blabbermouth wrote:

In celebration of the thirtieth anniversary of their ground-breaking debut album, "Appetite For Destruction", GUNS N' ROSES has announced "Guns N' Roses Was Here", an exclusive retail event in partnership with Maxfield and Bravado that will live in the famed Los Angeles boutique August 11-18.

http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/guns-n … -maxfield/

#695 Re: Guns N' Roses » Your Choice of Producer (And Why) For Guns Next Album... » 422 weeks ago

I've always found the Clink deification pretty strange.

It's like when people give directors credit but don't know what a director actually does.

He helped capture the live feel on Appetite in thanks to a good mix from Thompson and Barbiero but it's not like he pushed the songs or the band. Lies has a good sound because it's an open room, magnetic tape, and a bunch of guys playing competently. Nothing otherworldly here.

Axl needs a producer that can duel wits, speak the same language. He needs a mixer to keep him far, far away from the mixer board.

We might as well be talking about ancient mythology. Never gonna happen.

#696 Re: Guns N' Roses » The Creative Crisis of Guns N' Roses » 422 weeks ago

It's the most predictable band in the world at this point.

The next cycle will be late 2019 and they could conceivably go into 2021 without a peep of new music.

Do you guys actually expect this lineup to record new, relevant music together? I have a bridge to sell you...

Axl made his intentions clear when he shacked up with AC/DC.

#697 Re: Guns N' Roses » The Creative Crisis of Guns N' Roses » 422 weeks ago

James Lofton wrote:

Go into the studio for a month, whip up some simple rock songs of this caliber, and it'll sell/stream like hotcakes and so will concert tickets.

The crucial difference being "Doom and Gloom" was recorded / released to hock a new Greatest Hits album.

It's another area where this band is wrapped head-to-toe in red tape.

zombux wrote:

I think the concert tickets are selling like crazy anyway.

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#698 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » Buckethead 2017 tour » 422 weeks ago

I had never heard Tennessee 2004 before yesterday.

Wow. What a performance.

#699 Re: Guns N' Roses » The Creative Crisis of Guns N' Roses » 422 weeks ago

It's funny we should be talking about Manson since I took a long sabbatical from his work and only recently revisited it.

I've listened to the pre-Reznor mix and the demos of Antichrist Superstar which are both killer. I've dreamt that the Beavan sessions produced a raw version of Chinese much like ACSS. Messy and we don't care. "The raw sounds... not good enough" line from Tommy gave me hope.

I like the acoustic version bonus tracks. Running to the Edge of the World in particular. He also did this on Pale Emperor with slight remixes and stripped back sound. Good stuff.

The ginger could do much to atone for his sins. The only losing move is not to play.

#700 Re: Guns N' Roses » The Creative Crisis of Guns N' Roses » 422 weeks ago

Well said, Zombie friend.

The High End of Low was like all Manson records in that it was way too long but in my view that album is really underrated. He started experimenting with acoustic guitars and digging into more personal themes in his writing.

It was very much a precursor to The Pale Emperor which is a great record. That and Mechanical Animals are masterworks. You can have the rest.

It was also produced by Sean Beavan and Matt Sorum replacement candidate Chris Vrenna. Six degrees of Chinese.

The album flopped, unfortunately. And what did Manson do? Retreat to his tired schtick and record Born Villain which could only be described as "aggressively boring".

Salem collaborator Tyler Bates was his savior on The Pale Emperor but his much delayed new album doesn't sound promising.

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