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#701 Re: Guns N' Roses » When's Album? » 422 weeks ago
I remember Chris / c2ya very vaguely during my brief time on the boards back in the day. I was a church mouse in those days.
I do remember his interesting subform though. 
"Robin Finck's guitar tech said 68 songs done - working on 14 more"
Naturally, re-recording, things get dropped, etc. It's just interesting to hear the ~70 song number from another source.
#702 Re: Guns N' Roses » The Creative Crisis of Guns N' Roses » 422 weeks ago
You have a point but there are only so many love songs / angry young person songs you can write.
All artists branch out to survive. Eminem flirted with pop and went whole hog on his later comeback albums.
And nothing Axl has released is anything near Marilyn Manson or Nine Inch Nails in terms of the sound. Totally different. Axl has not made a concept album nor are the styles familiar. Shackler's is derivative of Buckethead and a band that was inspired by Guns N' Roses.
Axl needed to release an album of Oh My Gods, an album of Betters, and an album of Prostitutes. Unfortunately, we got saddled with an overwrought compilation album.
#703 Re: Guns N' Roses » Your Choice of Producer (And Why) For Guns Next Album... » 422 weeks ago
I would love to be wrong but I just don't see a new Guns album.
I think Guns N' Roses ended in 1993 and Axl failed at bringing it back to life in 1999-2002.
If they had the fire for new music / warmed over Chinese era stuff, we'd have seen the smoke signals by now.
It's possible a 57+ year old Axl wants to release more music after the tour finishes and post AC/DC tour/album but history...
#704 Re: The Sunset Strip » What Are You Listening To? » 422 weeks ago
I've listened to a couple of Gary's latest records. Dig this song even if it's a bit simplistic.
I was imagining Axl and Blue Hair doing this sort of thing. Would be interesting.
#705 Re: Guns N' Roses » Atlas Shrugged » 422 weeks ago
Must've smelled like Teen Spirit
A project which, incidentally enough, also originated with a piece of graffiti. "Kurt smells like Teen Spirit" was a bit of teenage vandalism courtesy of Bikini Kill's Kathleen Hanna, spawning the name of the titular track. For all the Nirvana aficionados in the audience.
If offered to save either the Beavan album or the 2001 album, I would not hesitate and choose the latter.
The Village move, for instance, was ushered by Bob Ezrin. He'd set the band up for a re-recording, but was not around to share his vision of 'good songs' with a confused Axl anymore.
I've always wondered what songs Ezrin was referring to in his infamous "three songs" comment...
Caram was there, maybe since Day 1 at the Village. He'd follow Axl into the wilderness.
Or on a near-endless Chinese Democracy tour long after the bell had rung.
For sure, same songs, mostly. Let's say, a releasable product with the required pedigree. The RTB album was pretty much done, while the orchestrations commissioned by Axl are possibly the only bits of it remaining on CD.
The old songs inclusion clarifies things. I've always wondered about the track listing. And artwork. Sigh.
The producer situation is somewhat curious. They went through a handful of producers in the Appetite recording process until they found Mike Clink which fit like a glove. Axl and Sean got along like mates. Ok, find someone new. Baker would've been something of an hero to Axl. Then again with the communication issues.
Communication issues, mystery illnesses. Frequently cited canards.
#706 Re: Guns N' Roses » The Creative Crisis of Guns N' Roses » 422 weeks ago
Axl's direction for Guns seemed to be half hip-hop and half electronica, mixed with rock elements.
And here, in 2017 and for the last decade plus both hip hop and electronica have ruled the roost.
The fanbase would bristle thinking about it but songs like Oh My God and Silkworms are contemporary in today's market. He just needed to make an album full of that type of material (he probably did, to be honest). And sadly the men for the job, Pitman and Buckethead, are long goners.
It's be interesting to know how far down the electronica rabbit hole he went.
#707 Re: Guns N' Roses » Atlas Shrugged » 422 weeks ago
That would be the Bucket & Brain / Roy Thomas Baker / Tom Zutaut album, the dog poo/chicken coop edition.
Yeah, that.
"The stuff that we worked on back in ’01 smoked its ass."
I need that.
In late 2001, Axl became sole producer. He was pleased with the Village Studios dude, Caram, who was made the next Bill Howerdel, his personal studio guy. Next thing we know, Marco Beltrami and Paul Buckmaster visit the studio, doing in elaborate background sections. That's what Ax felt the album needed.
For the visually minded: Axl's crew at Village Studios circa 2003-2004. Eric Cadieux, Dan Monti, Axl Rose, Caram Costanzo.
Both RTB and Beavan got an album's worth of music out of Axl within 1,5-2 years. That's a reasonable timeframe...
An album from RTB? I'd say there's maybe 3/4 of an album we know about post-Beavan.
Again, had this been part 3 of an already ecletic trilogy, with two prior parts out, he would've gotten away with it.
Indeed. It truly could've been a Hail Mary at the end of the game. Alas, Axl seemed to run out the clock with the ball in his hands...
#708 Re: Guns N' Roses » The Creative Crisis of Guns N' Roses » 422 weeks ago
You pay too much heed to what "journalists" say.
An odd statement considering I don't think I've ever posted one before and just wrote a raving review of a near 20 year old song that critics and most of the fanbase panned.
Axl will release music on Axl time. He is who he is. He does whatever he wants, however he wants and whenever he wants. Nothing will change it.
History would dictate that would be when he needs the money or he can no longer delay.
#709 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » Buckethead 2017 tour » 422 weeks ago
I read speculation of Brain / Del Rey only appearing on those dates since it's a closed loop in the Pacific Northwest.
I'm tempted to fly out just to see it.
#710 Guns N' Roses » The Creative Crisis of Guns N' Roses » 422 weeks ago
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I thought this was a good piece:
If Axl Rose pushed the boundaries of his music, the fifty-something lead singer of Guns N' Roses might be performing songs that are as pivotal today as the old songs were to kids growing up in the ‘80s and ‘90s.
But he doesn't. He’s still tossing around the mic and prancing up and down the stage, wearing a wide-brimmed hat over his bandanna, fetishizing a youth he has long left behind.
Source: http://www.westword.com/music/guns-n-ro … ie-9333771
I think that there's a certain irony in the fact that "Axl won the war" but now we're just living with a rehashed (albeit impressive) Use Your Illusion tour and lineup.
I don't criticize the boys for making their proverbial hay while the sun is shining, they're entitled to that of course, but Axl's motivation was always to take Guns N' Roses further, into the new millennium and beyond and I wish he would make good on that promise.
Where do we go now?
