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#711 Re: The Garden » A shattering moment in America's fall from power » 873 weeks ago

James Lofton wrote:

The US and EU need to end these wars and basically go back to a 1980's stance where its military is largely idle except when flash points erupt somewhere on the global stage.

So true. We've never seen as much technological and economical progress as we've seen under the cold war. Fear is a good motivator, but actually going to war destroys anything positive that might come out of it.

#712 Re: Management » New Design...... » 873 weeks ago

Just gotta mention I love some of the banners on the right hand side for the other forums. Especially the black hole one is great smile

#713 Re: Management » New feature » 873 weeks ago

So, will this do what I think it does?

*edit* sure does, but doesn't this mean you have to "thank" someone before you know for what? 10
People will reply before they got a chance to check "it" out.

Nice initiative though.

#714 Re: Guns N' Roses » new GNR song or poo wee? » 873 weeks ago

Captain Winkler wrote:

yea, it could just be the guitar parts?

Could be, but then this would be the least finished demo we've ever had from these guys and since he claims to have a version with "lyrics" I would expect the song to be (close to) finished.

And even then, the playing style fits none of GNR's current or former guitarists. They're all capable of churning out something much better than this.

#715 Re: The Garden » Record plunge for the Dow » 873 weeks ago

James Lofton wrote:
TheMole wrote:

And for you US citizens, let me tell you something: Clinton didn't destroy your country, he tried to get it more in line with the rest of the Western world (which in my book, is a good idea - it's time you guys catch up).

I know Clinton is thought of as some God overseas, but he most definitely played a role in our collapse. Majority of bills signed that led to this mess were signed by him.

I have no desire to "catch up" to the rest of the western world. You guys are heading towards collapse as well and have a saber rattling Russia licking its chops. That's not something for the US to aspire to.

Besides, we used to be the leader of the free world, not play "catch up".

Ok, I might not be in the best position to gauge Clinton's national policies, so I withdraw that comment. However, don't discount the method based on it's execution.  With all due respect to you and your country (there are definitely a couple of things we could learn from you - military unity for one), but not counting some exceptions there are no western countries that look up to the US as an example to follow. Especially not on economic matters. Welfare in the US is continuously lower than that of the EU, why not learn from that? You are borrowing money from god damn China, and that sure as hell isn't the fault of the democrats, is it? Those poor bastards only had one president since the 80's.

Furthermore, FDR had to pick up the pieces after the Great Depression. He served 4 terms, so the American people must've thought he did something right. Time to give this to the dems again - I just hope Obama can sustain his position for two terms and is followed by another democrate. Time to be progressive. In most other countries, "conservative" is a derisive term - almost a synonym to old fashioned. Kinda like those who don't like CD for the mere fact that it's a new band and new direction.

#716 Re: The Garden » Record plunge for the Dow » 873 weeks ago

Axélle01 wrote:

I was shocked to see you know so much about it, so my only conclusion is that your a belgian too smile Your right , we buy with the money we have , what we can afford . Everything i have i own and bought with my own money...I do have a credit card that i use only for emergencies.

Indeed I am. For what it's worth, most Belgians don't even have real credit cards. Most of these so-called credit cards are actually Visa's version of a debit card, where the full amount used is deducted from your checking account at the end of the month. No partial payback, no debt, no interest, just a handling fee.

#717 Re: Guns N' Roses » new GNR song or poo wee? » 873 weeks ago

Fake as hell. Axl would never contemplate releasing something like this. It has like, you know, only two guitars!

#718 Re: The Garden » Record plunge for the Dow » 873 weeks ago

Axélle01 wrote:

It affects all of us... 2 major banks in belgium are on the verge of bankruptie because of the stuff thats happening in the US . Im scared of what could happen , ppl cant pay there bills anymore , they get fired... Whats left for my kids ?? Is history repeating and are we going back to the 30's ? This is really serious... Do you know for a 1 L of gas we pay almost 1.50$ !! not jokin sad

Neither Fortis, nor Dexia will go bankrupt, I guarantee you that. Unlike American banks they perform hefty credit checks before handing out loans, they don't advertise for credit cards and they have a significant cash flow. The average Belgian owns what's in their house. Heck, most people don't even loan money for a car over here. You buy the car that you can afford. If people keep their cool and don't massively withdraw their savings, we will ride out this storm just fine.

We will see a minor dent in our economy compared to the mayhem in the States. Our stock exchanges will need to correct themselves for the investments we have in the American economy (and that will put a big damper on our welfare), but we are not doomed by any means. Our governments will need to invest money that otherwise could've been used to stimulate the economy, but it will only slow things down. This is, compared to what they have in the states, a minor setback.

And in the end, even the US will bounce back. Either with a full-blown free market, ready to go through this whole cycle again (there will always be corruption to bring this whole thing down again); or with a model very similar to what we have in Europe right now.

And for you US citizens, let me tell you something: Clinton didn't destroy your country, he tried to get it more in line with the rest of the Western world (which in my book, is a good idea - it's time you guys catch up). If you follow that up with a war mongering government like the one lead by Mr. George W. Bush, you're setting yourself up for massive failure. You can't be liberal on social issues and conservative on defense and economic issues. Pick one, preferably the system that has proven successful in the rest of the Western world.

#719 Re: The Garden » McCain suspends campaign, Obama plans to continue » 874 weeks ago

News I'm hearing says they (Bush administration) are setting him (McCain) up as the savior of these negotiations by having some republicans go against Bush and letting McCain "wheel them back in".

If so, it's a brillant marketing plan, but it's the ultimate voter fraud.

#720 Re: The Garden » Bush Asks Congress for $700 Billion Bailout » 874 weeks ago

Saikin wrote:

National health care takes away freedom because all of a sudden you don't have a choice what hospital you want, or whether you want to pay a certain premium or not.  You have no choice.  That to me, is a freedom that has been taken away.

See, that just shows how uninformed you are about this. We can freely choose our doctors, which hospital we go to, which perks we want during our treatment, choice of different sorts of medication, plastic surgery, ... the whole shebang.

Obviously, we need to pay for all those "nice to haves" ourselves, and we can get private insurance on top of the national health care system to pay for them. But that's something you have to decide for yourself. What's important to know is that if you choose not to pay for additional insurance, and you choose to not take private insurance, you will be able to get help for virtually no cost.

Yes, I do pay around 50% of my monthly wage in taxes (and the average Belgian still earns more than the average American), but only a small part of that goes to national health care. The rest goes to unemployment funds, retirements funds, infrastructure, ...

Now, I don't agree with a lot of those government organized insurances. I strongly believe one shouldn't be rewarded for prolonged unemployment, retirement is not something accidental so you can save up for that yourself, I don't feel I have to pay for that. (But a big part of the population does, so who am I to say it's wrong - that's democracy for ya).

If you compare that 50% to the USA's maximum of 35%, where you reap next to none of these benefits, you seem to be royally screwed. Maybe you need to reorganize the way current taxes are spent and pay national health care from the income you already have?

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