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#711 Re: Guns N' Roses » Duff McKagan Says Taking Stage With Guns N' Roses Was Meant To Happen » 747 weeks ago
*Whispers to ppp* shhh dont get dave started again!
Yeah I dont want to make him look like a fool when I hand his ass to him in this debate.
#712 Re: Guns N' Roses » Duff McKagan Says Taking Stage With Guns N' Roses Was Meant To Happen » 747 weeks ago
dave-gnfnr wrote:ppp wrote:I have to say something. Please don't take it the wrong way.
If you guys really feel that way about Axl, why do you bother with Guns N Roses anymore? That's a serious question, not a diss. Not trying to attack anyone or fight with anyone. I'm just legitimately curious, because if I felt all those things about Axl (and seeing as he's the only original member left) I'd probably not bother with GNR at all. I'd most likely be looking for a Slash/VR/Loaded or similar site or forum.
I never understand the logic of points of views like yours.
You can be a fan of someones music but not a fan of the person. You dont have to agree or like everything someone does just to be a fan.Just take most gnr fans who dont post on these boards.
They all love AFD but think axl is a dickhead, another good example is oasis and liam. Oasis fans love the music but hate liam, its the same thing.If you want a place that is all sunshine and dandylions there is a place for you, and that place is Jarmos, 99% of the people there are kiss asses and if that is your thing then go read that board.
This board and gnfnr board allow people to speak their dislike for things that Axl or any other band member does, it does not mean we/they are not fans, it just means they are fed up with the BS.
I mean seriously, lets say Gnr tours again this year, you really think its ok to call it the chinese democracy tour when we have been having the chinese democracy tour since 2002??
No, BBA. Those are your feelings and you create many accounts on many boards so people will think that every GNR thinks like you do. But they don't. And no matter how many accounts you create, you don't dominate the GNR world.
A person can like Axl as a person and not be an ass kisser. Most of us are not. There are other points of view besides just your narrow-minded one.
I am not BBA, and anyone on this board can verify this.
Here is the thing, the fact is most gnr fans think the way we do, the only gnr fans that dont are the ones of the message boards.
I have a ton of friends who are gnr fans and most think Axl is a dickhead and ruined guns n roses.
As for liking Axl Rose as a person, what is there to like?
Is it that he appears to be a racist? or that he beats women?
or that he seems to alienate anyone that joins his bands? or his disrepect over anyone that does not agree with him? Do i really need to go on?
#713 Re: Guns N' Roses » Duff McKagan Says Taking Stage With Guns N' Roses Was Meant To Happen » 747 weeks ago
I have to say something. Please don't take it the wrong way.
If you guys really feel that way about Axl, why do you bother with Guns N Roses anymore? That's a serious question, not a diss. Not trying to attack anyone or fight with anyone. I'm just legitimately curious, because if I felt all those things about Axl (and seeing as he's the only original member left) I'd probably not bother with GNR at all. I'd most likely be looking for a Slash/VR/Loaded or similar site or forum.
I never understand the logic of points of views like yours.
You can be a fan of someones music but not a fan of the person. You dont have to agree or like everything someone does just to be a fan.
Just take most gnr fans who dont post on these boards.
They all love AFD but think axl is a dickhead, another good example is oasis and liam. Oasis fans love the music but hate liam, its the same thing.
If you want a place that is all sunshine and dandylions there is a place for you, and that place is Jarmos, 99% of the people there are kiss asses and if that is your thing then go read that board. I am not saying you shouldnt be posting here because your opinion is welcome, what I mean is dont compalin about people that are not kissing Axls ass 24/7.
This board and gnfnr board allow people to speak their dislike for things that Axl or any other band member does, it does not mean we/they are not fans, it just means they are fed up with the BS.
I mean seriously, lets say Gnr tours again this year, you really think its ok to call it the chinese democracy tour when we have been having the chinese democracy tour since 2002??
#714 Re: Guns N' Roses » Bumblefoot responds to rumors about him » 747 weeks ago
Yeah it never had a chance because what Ron said is not defendable by any sane person. If he would have released that professional statement before his stupid rape comments, then everything would have been fine.
#715 Re: Guns N' Roses » Bumblefoot responds to rumors about him » 747 weeks ago
Ron logged onto the internets and made a few posts abusing some people. Oh No - he dun goofed up, better report him to the cyber police.
As for this statement:
I never saw anyone wish rape or sodomy on anyone, yet Ron did that
FFS it was a witty retort that he used to a cheeky question, do you take everything so seriously and literally, particularly on the internet? If someone tells you to fuck off do you walk away attempting to hump the air? Or do you recognise it as simply a more agitated/aggressive statement of "get lost".
That is not witty at all, like I said he was not even clever with his bashing.
The guy is a professional it was childish to log into a message board to yell at some troll as you call it.
The fact is he crossed the line with the rape and sodomy comments and just because Ron is in Gnr does not make it ok that he made those comments. Its fine if he bashes internet trolls but the comments he used where way over line, I just think its funny anyone would defend those comments.
#716 Re: Guns N' Roses » Bumblefoot responds to rumors about him » 747 weeks ago
^^ Of course, its faux outrage and typical.
The notion that people cant dislike Ron or what he did because Ron is held in sacred regard is bollocks as well.
KillingVector has been very vocal about his distaste for Rons actions at mygnr and noone has had a problem with his point of view. But then, KV is capable of communicating at an adult level...
Well when I try to speak on an adult level with immature people like yourself, it does not work. So I have to try different tactics (which worked btw) to get my point across. So maybe if you could make better points instead of, oh you are a ron hater, then I would not have to get on your lower level.
#717 Re: Guns N' Roses » Bumblefoot responds to rumors about him » 747 weeks ago
The people still bitching about Ron are the ones who hated him to begin with. Nothing he said was any worse than what's been posted on mygnr a million times and Eric lets just about anyone get away it.
When I used to post on mygnr I never saw anyone wish rape or sodomy on anyone, yet Ron did that, and its laughable anyone would think anyone is cool who would make a post like that. It just shows how warped some Gnr fans are. It just shows how childish Ron is to come to a fan board and go off on fans like that. And it has nothing to do with it being Ron, I said Axl was wrong when he went off on madison and called her a cunt as well. I dont care who you are, you dont wish rape on anyone and dont think you should ever call a female a cunt. People like you just have no defense for Ron so you claim oh its because you dont like him.
There is truth to the so called "rumor" that Ron was bitching about DJ to Axl because if i was not true, he wouldnt have gotten so mad that it got out.
You really think DJ would believe some so called troll on an internet board over a band member or so called friend if it was not true???
So of course there is true to it, that is why Ron acted the way he did because it got out that he was.
#718 Re: Guns N' Roses » Bumblefoot responds to rumors about him » 747 weeks ago
dave-gnfnr wrote:If someone talked to your mother or sister that way, you really wouldnt take offense?
Honestly no. If some random person says some nasty shit about my family members on a message board, I could care less. It doesn't effect me in the least. ESPECIALLY if it was done in response to me spreading false rumors about them. Then, it'd all be fair game.
If it's done in person, that'd be a different story. But in this case, no. Fire away.
Well its too bad the rumors are true, and that is why bumblebee got so upset because he did not want it getting out that he was crying about DJs salary being more than his.
#719 Re: Guns N' Roses » Bumblefoot responds to rumors about him » 747 weeks ago
dave-gnfnr wrote:And you are a joke to even claim I am wrong or beating a hater for calling out Ron over his tirade, I dont care who you are, what he said was wrong.
I'm just surprised you're still carrying on about it.
I dont carry on about it, its cry babies like you that keep bringing it up, because I dont like your poor hero Ron. Just get over it already.
#720 Re: Guns N' Roses » Bumblefoot responds to rumors about him » 747 weeks ago
dave-gnfnr wrote:Faldor how long have you been on Gnr boards? When BH and Ron were in the band for YEARS people would complain about them. And I have not said anything about Ron until he had his baby name calling rant, and I said it was wrong and he could have handled it better.
I've been around since 2002 or so off and on, but more frequently from 2006 on. So no, I wasn't real active during Buckethead's time.
I seem to remember you starting a convoluted thread about Ron a few months back, which seemed to serve no other purpose than to slam him. If I'm mistaken I apologize, but I've always had the imrpression you've been a a long time Bumblefoot hater.
Edit - I just read some anti-Ron threads you started, and my inclinations were proven true. You have been spreading your hate for Ron for the better part of the last year, at least here. So to say you only started since Ron's recent MyGNR blowup is, how you say, completely and utterly a lie.
Thanks for playing though.
Like I said, I do nothing different with Ron than others did with BH or Robin. But of course Oh Ron talks to the fans you cant hate him LOL
I just find it laughable some people cry when certain fans dont like Ron
And you are a joke to even claim I am wrong or beating a hater for calling out Ron over his tirade, I dont care who you are, what he said was wrong.
If someone talked to your mother or sister that way, you really wouldnt take offense?