Ali wrote:

tejastech08 wrote:

This is Axl Rose we're talking about. Detailed financial analysis? Remember this is the same guy who spent $15 million making a single album.

Yeah, but like buzzsaw said, it wasn't really his money. Also, I think it's obvious it wasn't just 14 songs that were being worked on, too. Not that $15 million isn't exorbitant, but factually speaking, it wasn't jus one album.

But, I'm not saying only the finances should or actually will dictate the decision-making. I just hope it's considered.

Ali

Factually speaking, the record company only has one album in their possession after spending that $15 million. Axl might never release the alleged "vault" tracks.

tejastech08 wrote:

Theaters are the only realistic way to go. Time for Uncle Axl to get his ego in check.

It's not even a matter of "Axl getting his ego in check". I've been screaming for theater shows since the 02 tour was booked. It's a win/win for the band, here's why;

Guns N' Roses comes to your city, they book some theater that seats between 1000-4000 seats, they price tickets reasonably, it becomes THE ticket in town. Period. I don't care what lineup of GN'R they tour with, GNR at a place a little too small creates so much positive buzz it's not even funny.

So they book this tour, radio stations give out tickets to caller X, the tickets are all over Stub Hub, etc, people talk to other people; "DUDE! You got GNR tickets! Man, I would've loved to have been able to get those!" Then you still have that "danger factor" Axl seems to love so much. Will Axl show up? What time will he do it? Will it be a whole show? Will Axl go off on someone or something?

And then best case scenario, the show goes off without a hitch (as many more have than haven't since 02), the people at the show continue the buzz. "Dude, I saw GN'R the other night, they were AWESOME! Axl's still got it!" etc etc.

Then after a couple rounds of those, you've got the cache to pull off an arena tour again if you wish. Or even be invited to more of the super popular US festivals, etc.

I'm telling you, a Guns N' Roses Theater US Tour is and has been THE best option for the band for almost 10 years now. And I really don't think it's got anything to do with Axl's ego. I just think that the people at the wheel of "the GNR machine" so to speak, really don't know enough about how to promote this band properly.

There is trolling. And there is difference of opinion. The two are not the same. And it has nothing to do with negativity. I think Mikka is a troll, without a doubt, when it comes to the main GNR boards. To the point where it gets to personal insults. Yet people will support and defend Mikka and not call him out because they agree with Mikka's "negative opinions." That's trollish behavior. It's not about someone having a negative opinion, I can get along with people who don't think it's GNR, it's when it goes past just being personal opinion and you're deliberately starting an argument (with almost every post about the new line up, Axl, whatever) or deliberately being a dick.

I think that nearly everyone at HTGTH is a troll. And they're all "positive."

I've never deducted karma from Mikka, even when he's called me an idiot and shit like that for the simple reason that I disagreed with him. And even though I've gotten negative karma for telling him to shut up for doing it to others. There's not an even handedness to people with just "negative opinions" about GNR to keep things civil. It is what it is.