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#71 Re: The Garden » Covid 19 » 304 weeks ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSXIetP5iak

#72 Re: The Garden » Weinstein sentenced to 23 Years in prison » 304 weeks ago

AtariLegend wrote:

Almost expected it to be a shorter setence and him to get early (hollywood).

Didn't realize he was almost 70 either.


I always thought he was well over 70...  What a surprise to find he's 'only' 67.

#73 Re: The Garden » Covid 19 » 304 weeks ago

Never seen anything like this before. I really don't understand why people get so crazy over a  flu like disease when all they have to do is wash their hands and avoid putting vulnerable people at risk. Still haven't bought supplies but I think I might try and get some stuff tomorrow, just in case. If I wait any longer I might regret it later.

#74 Re: Guns N' Roses » Axl’s “ridiculous demands” » 304 weeks ago

jimmythegent wrote:

Further theorizing or "insider" speculation now saying that Axl is demanding that the next release be a CD re-release, remastered with a CD2 EP without Slash or Duff. And the label are understandably none to keen on the idea.



Why would Axl want such a thing? It would be a very weird move... He's got his band back together and they are supposedly working on new music (or re-recording some Chinese Democracy leftovers with Slash and Duff tongue ). I know some hardcore fans are drooling over  ** CD2 ** but  everyone else wants to have Slash and Duff and a new album.  I for one want to hear brand new music and not some old recordings.

#75 Re: The Garden » Covid 19 » 304 weeks ago

I don't think it's bizarre.

It's a very contagious disease and people have been allowed to travel without restrictions for too long, even after Wuhan was isolated. The virus has been around since December, apparently, but it took weeks before that poor GP was finally listened to. When something was finally put in place to contain the virus, people had been  travelling to and from China without knowing they were carriers. Also,  everyone rushed to collect people who were in China, fly them back home and I think that was a mistake. Those people were not always checked properly, I even read something about people coughing on the plane... If they were showing symptoms, they should have been left in isolation in China, in my opinion.


This Wednesday when I went to some local shop, the cashier coughed on several occasions without ever attempting to cover her mouth... I mean, seriously? She cannot ignore what's going on here and everywhere in the world. She cannot have not heard all that stuff on the radio/TV or read the papers or spoken to someone about the virus. Carelessness is what is getting the virus to spread. 

At my work we were informed this very afternoon that we are now in lockdown and cannot allow visitors in.


What I find bizarre is this thing about pangolins. If they carry the virus how comes this has not happened before?


I think it is very likely that Covid 19 killed people in the UK way before we started recording it as the cause of death. Like, people dying due to respiratory failure/flu...

#76 Re: The Garden » Covid 19 » 304 weeks ago

So does his wife.

https://twitter.com/tomhanks/status/1237909897020207104/photo/1

#77 Re: The Garden » Covid 19 » 304 weeks ago

Gilbert DERAY, Hôpital Pitié-Salpêtrière, Paris

coronavirus, watch out danger, but not who you believe.

For the past 30 years, from my hospital observatory, I have experienced many health crises, HIV, SARS, SEAS, TB outbreak, multi-resistant bacteria, we managed them in calm and very effectively.
None has given rise to the current panic.
I've never experienced such a degree of concern for an infectious disease and for any other.
And yet, I'm not worried about the medical consequences of the coronavirus. Nothing in the current figures on the death and spread of the virus justifies global health and above all economic panic.
The measures taken are adapted and effective and will allow for the control of the epidemic. This is already the case in China, the original home and by far the most important of this infectious agent, where the epidemic is going to be extinct.
The near future will tell if I was wrong.
On the other hand,
• I am concerned about masks flights and that those needed to protect caregivers and people at risk, our old and those who are already sick, especially immunocompromised patients, will be distributed for zero efficiency at airports, coffee shops and the shopping malls.
• I'm worried about cleaning gel cleaners.
• I'm worried about these brawls to buy toilet paper and rice and pasta boxes.
• I am worried about this terror that leads to making obscene stocks of food in countries where it is available in an equally obscene abundance.
• I am worried about our elders already alone and that we should not see or touch for fear of killing them. They will die faster but "only" of loneliness. We used not to visit our parents and grandparents if we had the flu, not to avoid them "in case" and for an indefinite period, it's nothing different for the coronavirus
• I am concerned that health will become an object of war and conflict like any other, when it should be an ultimate cause of struggle in the rally.
• I am concerned that our health system, already in great difficulties, will soon be overwhelmed by an flood of sick people at the slightest sign of flu syndrome. It is then all the other diseases that we will not be able to take care of. A heart attack or appendicitis are always emergency, a virus rarely.
The media coverage on the coronavirus is very anxiety and it takes part in everyone's panic.
This leads to the craziest conspiracy theories of the kind, "they're hiding something from us". Nothing is dark, it's impossible in medicine in this digital world where scientific knowledge is immediate and without filter.
The coronavirus kills (almost) only the already fragile bodies.
I am worried that this tiny living being will only reveal the huge fracture and weaknesses of our societies. The deaths that will then count by millions will be those of the clash of individuals in total indifference of the collective interest.

#78 The Garden » Weinstein sentenced to 23 Years in prison » 304 weeks ago

Yamcha
Replies: 6

Harvey Weinstein Is Sentenced to 23 Years in Prison

The sentence capped a stunning downfall for Mr. Weinstein, the former Hollywood mogul who was convicted of two felony sex crimes.

Harvey Weinstein, the movie producer who dominated Hollywood for decades, was sentenced on Wednesday to 23 years in prison for sex crimes, as the six women who had testified against him watched from the courtroom’s front row, holding one another, some in tears.

The startling sentence meant that Mr. Weinstein, who is 67 and in poor health, could very well spend the rest of his life in prison. Mr. Weinstein, who was sitting in a wheelchair, told the court that he was remorseful, but also “totally confused” about what had happened to him.

The moment capped a precipitous fall from power for Mr. Weinstein that started in October 2017 when, after years of rumors, several women openly accused him of sexual assault and harassment. Their stories led women around the globe to speak about mistreatment at the hands of powerful men, shifting the cultural landscape with the #MeToo movement.

Justice James A. Burke, who presided over the trial in State Supreme Court in Manhattan, could have sentenced Mr. Weinstein to as little as five years, but he heeded the arguments of prosecutors who urged him to hand down a long sentence.
“Although this is a first conviction, it is not a first offense,” Judge Burke said. “There is evidence before me of other incidents of sexual assault involving other women.”

Two of Mr. Weinstein’s victims gave emotional statements about the damage he had done to them. Miriam Haley, who testified Mr. Weinstein forced oral sex on her in 2006, said he had forever altered her life, crushing her spirit.
“He violated my trust and my body and my personal right to deny sexual advances,” she said.

Given a chance to speak, Mr. Weinstein suggested in a rambling speech to the court that he thought his relationships with his victims were consensual. He said he was “totally confused,” adding that he believed many men were confused about the issues raised by #MeToo.

“We may have different truths, but I have remorse,” he said, addressing his accusers. “For all of you and for all the men and women going through this crisis right now in this country.”

He added: “I really feel remorse for this situation. I feel it deeply in my heart. I’m really trying, I’m really trying to be a better person.”
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Justice Burke was unmoved. He gave Mr. Weinstein 20 years for the felony attack on Ms. Haley and an additional three years for the rape of Jessica Mann, an aspiring actress who testified he had forced himself on her in a Manhattan hotel in 2013.

Ms. Mann said she hoped for a “future where monsters no longer hide in our closet.”
Within hours of the sentencing, the district attorney’s office in Los Angeles County announced it had begun the process of extraditing Mr. Weinstein to California to face sexual assault charges there. In January, the Los Angeles authorities charged him in connection with attacks on two women there in February 2013.

In New York, the six women who had given graphic accounts on the witness stand of Mr. Weinstein’s sexual assaults all entered the courtroom together on Wednesday, sitting in the front row of the gallery, just behind the prosecution’s table.

Next to them sat the Manhattan district attorney, Cyrus R. Vance Jr. The rows behind Mr. Weinstein were largely empty.

A Manhattan jury of seven men and five women found Mr. Weinstein guilty on Feb. 25 of first-degree criminal sexual act and third-degree rape.

After five days of deliberations, however, the jury acquitted Mr. Weinstein of the most serious charges against him: two counts of predatory sexual assault, which required prosecutors to prove that he had committed a serious sexual assault against at least two women.
Those charges, as constructed by prosecutors, required the jury to find Mr. Weinstein had raped the actress Annabella Sciorra in the early 1990s at her Gramercy Park apartment. But some jurors doubted her account.

The jury also determined Mr. Weinstein was not guilty of first-degree rape in the 2013 attack on Ms. Mann. That charge required the state to prove the use of force or a threat during the attack. The jury instead opted to convict him of third-degree rape, which required prosecutors to prove only that she did not consent.

Three other women — Dawn Dunning, Tarale Wulff and Lauren Young — also testified at the trial. All were aspiring actresses who said Mr. Weinstein lured them into private meetings to discuss their careers then sexually assaulted them.

Mr. Weinstein was not charged in those cases, because they were too old to be prosecuted or happened outside New York. Still, Justice Burke allowed the three women to testify to establish a pattern of behavior.

Arguing for a lengthy sentence, prosecutors had pointed to a long list of allegations from other women who said Mr. Weinstein had sexually assaulted them over four decades. The earliest allegation, prosecutors noted, was from a woman who said he raped her on a business trip in 1978.

The lead prosecutor, Joan Illuzzi, told the court people who knew Mr. Weinstein described him as a sociopathic manipulator. She described him as a “monster” who used his power in the film industry to prey on women.

“He walked the red carpet and mingled with the stars and held the dreams of many people in his hands,” she said. “He saw no limit to what he could take.”
Mr. Weinstein’s lawyer, Donna Rotunno, said before sentencing that the intense coverage of Mr. Weinstein’s case made a fair trial impossible.

“Mr. Weinstein came with the forces of the media and the forces of the world pushing against the chance to have a real impartial jury in this case,” she said.

She urged the judge to take into account Mr. Weinstein’s fragile health in sentencing, noting that a long sentence would be “a de facto life sentence.”

Before Mr. Weinstein was charged, reports about his sexual misconduct had been circulating in Hollywood for decades, even as the producer won critical acclaim for Oscar-winners like “Shakespeare in Love” and “Pulp Fiction” and reshaped the film industry.

But in late 2017, several of his accusers went public in exposés published by The New York Times and The New Yorker. Since then, more than 90 women have accused Mr. Weinstein of misconduct, including harassment, inappropriate touching and sexual assault.

Recently unsealed court documents show that, in the weeks after the articles were published, Mr. Weinstein and his team scrambled to come up with a response.

The producer desperately sought support from wealthy friends like Jeff Bezos, who founded Amazon, and Michael Bloomberg, the billionaire and former New York City mayor.
Mr. Weinstein, who has cardiac problems and has been housed in an infirmary at Rikers Island, will be moved to an upstate prison within 10 days, state prison officials said.

Like all city inmates convicted of violent felonies, Mr. Weinstein will first be sent to a reception area at the Downstate Correctional Facility in Fishkill, said Craig Rothfeld, his prison consultant.

His arms and legs will be shackled. He will be brought into a processing center where he will receive four prison-issued shirts, three pairs of pants, a jacket, boots and sneakers.

Mr. Weinstein will be required to shave his hair, however, he can object for religious reasons, according to state prison guidelines. He will also receive a shower and a delousing treatment.

Prison officials will decide whether to house Mr. Weinstein in his own cell, in a dormitory with the general population or in solitary confinement until they determine where to house him permanently, Mr. Rothfeld said. While Downstate has a basic infirmary, it does not have a hospital unit with beds, he said.

This process, Mr. Rothfeld said, could be interrupted at any moment if prosecutors in Los Angeles successfully extradite him for an arraignment on the sexual assault charges there.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/11/nyre … ncing.html

#79 Re: The Garden » Covid 19 » 304 weeks ago

^ I would punch her too.

I went to town today, for like, the first time in over 2 weeks and it's incredible how things have changed. There are less people on the streets and shops are unusually quiet. I saw some men share some hand sanitiser at Mc Donald's before having their meal together. Not sure how it's going to stop them from getting sick if they sit face to face and talk and spit in each others' face. 16 Personally I would not put this gluey stuff on my hands just before eating. I would rather use regular soap.

Waitrose at about 2 pm:

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High street sights

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Asda just before 7 pm: no toilet rolls, no pasta, no soap.

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I still haven't been to the shop for the sake of stocking up. Hopefully I won't regret my decision.

#80 Re: The Garden » Covid 19 » 304 weeks ago

Randall Flagg wrote:

Unless you’re elderly or have a weak immune system, yes, it’s hysteria. 18k people have died in the US this flu season. Most don’t get their flu shot and don’t alter their behavior. It’s going to suck if you get it, but unless you’re in those specific demographics, it won’t be any worse than the flu. Wash your hands and don’t go out in public if you’re sneezing and coughing. I assume you’re European, so you have no reason to be going to work if you’re sick.


Correct assumption.


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