sp1at wrote:

Shacklermyrye wrote:

Yeah thats right. It's thanks to you that we have much of the info we do.

"As far as the songs go: 'Oklahoma' was pretty much written by the time they got to the studio. Axl  wrote that with inspiration from the Oklahoma City bombing (more as a tribute to those who died, if I'm not mistaken).(Dave Dominguez, Sp1at, 02/07/05).

It was inspired by a court date with ex-wife Erin Everly. ''I was sitting in litigation with my ex-wife,  and it was the day after the bombing,'' .'' (Axl Rolling Stone. 2000)  That was two days after Duff and Izzy recorded Toothpuller, Machine gun, down by the sea in April 95

“I was a staff engineer at Rumbo Recorders and was about to quit or lose my mind . I thought it was time to get what clients I had (practically none) and get out. The manager came to me and said Guns was coming in to do their next record and they had no producer or engineer and that needed someone with experience so I said "yes" and she also said they would be writing for two months and then recording for two months and they would be it (haha) seven months later. I bailed on good terms with Axl and the band but not with the studio”.(David Dominguez Sp1at)

“Most of the songs had working titles but I know that "Oklahoma" and "Ides of March" were songs that were almost complete.(David Dominguez Sp1at)

“Some were three seconds long, some were three minutes long. Sometimes it was just a guitar lick. ‘Oh, that’s cool.’ They were transferred to CD. Everything had an ID and a number, then the CDs were made for each member of the band. They could go, OK, on set four, CD three, idea 15, let’s do something with that.’ Then everybody would take their CD home, get the part and write something to that. It was intense.(David Dominguez Producer 2010.12.DD - What's On Dubai)

I believe the ID system is on the locker leak discs too. The Rebel is J587 278 for example, makes me wonder how many of those discs there were in total

Ahh, that's cool and quite detailed. It was such a long time ago now lol.

I was doing alot of promoting years ago, so it was a fun thing on the side. The promoter game was a stress so it was good to do something else. When promoting, you are putting your own money out there and you only break even if 90% of the tickets are sold, then you make a bit extra from merch and refreshments. Ticket master make more because they own the venues so it's hard to compete

Thanks man, who did you promote? Anyone we know?

James wrote:

One more thing on that subject (CITR-Checkmate clips)....

They realized that they were allowing too many people access to these clips to shop around for more tracks. Instead of acquiring more tracks under the table with these clips....they started getting leaked instead.

After that fiasco...they stopped using other people for this and kept it in their inner circle.

Makes sense, I'd love to know names of other tracks that are out there in private hands.
Specifically the early stuff from 1998, I know that Oklahoma is out there but i wonder if Ides Of March is. Dave Dominguez told Sp1at that those two were the most finished and given he started there in January and left seven months later there must have been pretty complete versions between January and July of 1998.

According to the NY Times In 1998 studio technicians were burning as many as five CD's per week with various mixes of different songs to play Axl. I find it hard to believe none of them ever ripped any of that stuff.

We have no idea how much of that stuff is really out there sat on someones shelf or in someones locker.

James wrote:

Shacklermyrye wrote:

Well surely Perhaps & The General given there on setlist, I wouldn't expect any more than that this year though

Hopefully that's the minimum. I'm just hoping for a Haily Mary pass and we get a real EP out of this tour cycle.

It won't be very soon i think, if they were picking mixes then it hasn't been mastered yet, but when it is then there's no real stages left untill release.

Used to take about a 4 week turnaround when something had been handed in for it to be ready for release & I think thats less now due to streaming. I'm gonna say probably within 2 months, or November possibly