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#71 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 440 weeks ago
However NO PARDON FOR DAVID PATREAUS. What is going on here??
Why the fuck would he need to be pardoned, he's not even serving jail time?
#72 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 440 weeks ago
Citizen leaking classified information. Hero
Foreign government one of their candidate honeymooned in, leaks emails from the Clinton campaign, it's the worst attack since 9/11
I'm not in the "Clinton was robbed" camp by any stretch of the imagination, but don't you think the parts above in bold are what make the most important difference. One is an American citizen acting out of the personal belief that his (at that point in time) actions will make his country better (or at least expose something which he believed the American people had to know), the other is a foreign government (and one that the US has had a rocky relationship with, to put it mildly) trying to influence the outcome of your election.
Regardless of the actual nature of the information leaked, isn't it obvious why the second one is much more concerning?
#73 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 440 weeks ago
Question still stands tho, you think he did this to get Assange to turn himself in?
#74 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 440 weeks ago
Obama commutes Chelsea Manning, who leaked info to Wikileaks and was basically a trader.
Beaten to the punch by Smoking (I think you mean "traitor" by the way, which I don't personally think she was. A whistleblower is a more apt description, imho).
#75 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 440 weeks ago
So Obama has commuted Manning's sentence, which means she'll be free in 5 months or so. Assange said he'd agree to being extradited to the US if Obama released Manning... You guys reckon Obama wanted to make a last big splash by being the president that got Assange to turn himself in?
#76 Re: Guns N' Roses » European Tour 2017 Thread » 444 weeks ago
Well, I've gone ahead and bought me and the gf tickets to TW Classic. At 91 euros a pop they were not hugely expensive, considering it's a festival and they're expected to announce another 5, 6 bands or so. I'm actually pretty stoked to see Slash and Axl sharing a stage for the first time ever .
#77 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 445 weeks ago
To be pro choice means you offer no freedom to the unborn. Do they not have a right to live? A baby isn't part of the woman's body. It is just housed there. It has its own DNA, blood, organs, etc. In times of rape and major sickness, or health to the mother of course I am pro choice. But a baby to me has nothing to do about rights for the mother but rights for the innocent baby.
Except it is not a baby but a mere zygote, blastocyst or fetus. So why the government has to protect it's 'freedom' is beyond me. It can't think or feel yet, therefore by definition it cannot be free to make it's own choices, but somehow the pro-life movement seems to think it is protecting freedom, instead of taking it away...
#78 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 445 weeks ago
Doesn't anyone see the irony of the government getting involved to make choices for people - and the perpetrating party being Republicans? Could the Republicans possibly be this hypocritical?
I've raised this exact same point so many times, and the only arguments that seem to come up are of the "they are protecting my freedom to stop other people from doing with their bodies what they want" variety. Something about being a Christian nation, and it being about the protection of the "American way of life" or some other nonsense...
#79 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 447 weeks ago
AtariLegend wrote:If Trump is spouting Breibart nonsense about millions of illegals voting, then maybe he should call for a careful recount in all states.
He already won so it would be a waste of time.
Would you not expect the President-elect to actually care about the election process in the country that he's going to be running? Would you not expect a president-elect that has run his campaign on the premise of 'Making America Great Again', that has railed against the establishment, that has lamented about the "rigged" election process so many times it's hard to keep count... to want to invest some of his time in fixing that process?
Oh, but he won... so he doesn't care anymore...
Well, that's not fair of me, he cares just enough to try to fix his bruised ego by tweeting about it. Just not enough to actually do something about it.
#80 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 447 weeks ago
If Trump is spouting Breibart nonsense about millions of illegals voting, then maybe he should call for a careful recount in all states.
But that would imply he actually believes all that shit, and isn't just paying lip service to the millions of buffoons that got suckered into voting for him...