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#71 Re: Guns N' Roses » Better Official Single 12/02/08 » 890 weeks ago

polluxlm wrote:

Alex Jones just played CD on his show. How's that for promotion?:haha:

That is wild--I am waiting to hear it on Coast to Coast am during one of their rock n' roll conspiracy shows!

What was Alex Jone's take?  I am sure there were some conspiratorial comments...

#72 Re: Guns N' Roses » Best Buy exclusive dramatically limited 1st week sales! » 890 weeks ago

I am surprised that it sold 48,000 copies last week (according to Hits Daily Double)--that was a pretty small drop for the third week.  It's now scanned 366,000 in three weeks.  In this climate, under the circumstances, some of the presses criticism regarding sales seems more based upon ridiculous expectations, than reality.  Best Buy, if they had any guts left or the resources to, should push this hard leading up to X-mas, and they may get a few more weeks of steady sales around 50K.

Any updates on where Better is on the active and modern rock charts?  Also, Faldor, what songs do you hear on Sirius Octane?  A friend of mine said he has heard Sorry, TWAT, Catcher, CD, and Better.

#73 Re: Guns N' Roses » Brian May Talks About Catcher n The Rye » 890 weeks ago

Axlin08 wrote:

Thanks for the Brian May stuff.

Well, Brian's solo, imho, is superior to the solo on the final version.

#74 Re: Guns N' Roses » Brian May Talks About Catcher n The Rye » 890 weeks ago

tejastech08 wrote:
Mikkamakka wrote:

I don't believe in the blame BB theory. They ordered 1.3 million copies and paid for that. That's a lot of money and as it seems, there is little to no chance for them to capitalize on it. Maybe in some stores the employees were lazy, I don't know, but they couldn't have done more to promote it without the GN'R camp's involvement. Not releasing a video and not giving interviews were the biggest mistakes.

Putting it in Best Buy instead of Wal-Mart was the biggest mistake. Wal-Mart is everywhere, Best Buy isn't. And people go to Wal-Mart not for electronics crap but mainly for groceries and essential things. In a time of huge economic struggle across the country, electronics go out the window and it gets down to the bare essentials as far as what people are willing to shop for.

Bingo--I work for/package enterprise solutions for Fortune 500 companies.  We work with the top five hardware/software/service suppliers in America--business to business sales are down over 25% year over year.  The suits cover it, so the books don't look as bad, with residual cash flow streams, and other accounting tricks.  From what I gather, tech retail sales are down upwards of 25-40%--the Best Buy accountants are doing a good job showing just a 77% drop in profits.  Heck Circuit City just closed a few hundred stores. 

Actions speak louder than words--they just offered a ERP to all executives--not just older executives, all executives company-wide.  It's unprecedented.  Put it this way--Best Buy, and one can tell just going to their stores, is in dire shape.  Their in-store traffic is way lower than it was a year ago during the X-mas shopping season.  I have been in three, and they were practically empty this week.  Nuts, and scary!  It's laughable, they are now trying to pin their downfall on Axl in the press today, and on their earnings call.  An utter joke--the electronics/residual income sector of the economy is tanking, and as a company, they are in big trouble if one $12 item is bringing them down. 

http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/b … ist=msr_29

UPDATE--surprisingly, CD sold about 50K last week, which is pretty good.  Much better than I thought--56 second week, and 50 third, indicates to me the sudden drop is not quite what some expected.  Interesting:rock:

#75 Re: Guns N' Roses » Brian May Talks About Catcher n The Rye » 890 weeks ago

Neanderpaul wrote:

Either way, it doesn't really matter. The song is what it is. The masses will never hear what Brian did. And quite frankly, aren't really interested in what did come out. Although it gives people something to discuss. Knowing how selective certain people are regarding events, and combined with Brian May's reputation as completely credible, I'd tip the scales toward his recollections. But this is really smoke n' mirrors to distract from the real things people were focused on; Chinese Democracy has been a disappointment. And, the reunion rumors. Remember...nobody said it wasn't happening. They're all saying "there are no plans." Which means lawyers, and managers are working feverishly behind the scenes to see if it's possible. The rumor is that the Slash/Axl bitchfest needs to work itself out. After that...all is considered a go. We'll see.

Ok, by GNR's prior standards, this is a huge disapointment.  By realistic standards/expectations, which it seems Axl and the new mgt. were keen to, this is not doing that bad, all things considered.  In fact, I think this in a way sets them free to release another album of work, if they want.  I do agree a reunion is ultimately what will happen, but if Axl wants to release the second album of music, that is cool too--esp. for the diehard fanbase.


So the album has SCANNED 350K in the U.S. to date (SCANNED over 1 million internationally) in three weeks--through a distributor who is in dire straits, and quite frankly WILL NOT admit that they had no money to spend on advertising or setting up more in-store promo than a few cardboard boxes, etc.  Best Buy did virtually no cross marketing in-store, zero employee awareness (no memo to employees--yes we have a highly anticipated product here, buy it yourselves, tell friends, tell customers, etc.), were not even unboxing CD's in many stores on the date of the official public release (lack of employee awareness, motivation smells like a company in the last throes of survival), and in many cases had horrid display/window space in store for the product. My business senses tell me, that this will slide down to pushing 10K a week soon--but if the drivel of information and controversy continues to surround the band, it may sell 10K a week for quite some time. 

So, if it does 10K a week, for half of the year, domestically, it will push another 240K or so just in the 1st half of next year.  If, one of the ballads becomes a semi-hit, they may get a spike or two along the way.  I bet, by June or so, they are nearing the 750K mark domestically.  That is not bad at all.  I also think, they will be pushing 2 million internationally.  Really, with the band changes, no touring yet for the album, etc.--that is not that bad.  And, for Universal, the icing on the cake is this--they have already SOLD over 2 million copies of this worldwide.

Now, this is just business chatter--as the most important thing is the quality of the music, sales and commercial success aside.  If the product is viable, even if it is not made to appeal to the masses, the artist has succeeded--at least for himself.:beer::peace:

#76 Re: Guns N' Roses » Best Buy exclusive dramatically limited 1st week sales! » 891 weeks ago

Gunslinger wrote:

The Best Buy I go to is like a fucking ghost house as well.  I've said all along that this exclusive hurt sales.  Of course hindsight is always 20-20.  If it were at Wally World it would have sold twice as much.

Exactly--people go to buy fairly expensive items at Best Buy--right now, many people are trying to figure out how to feed their family tomorrow, pay the energy bill, and cover next months mortgage or rent.  They are not going to Best Buy.  The economy is not good, and specialty retail stores like Best Buy suffer far more than wholesale-retail giants like Wal Mart.  Interesting, I also saw that online sales of higher valued items were down this year as well--it's ugly out there:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/08/busin … technology

#77 Re: Guns N' Roses » Best Buy exclusive dramatically limited 1st week sales! » 891 weeks ago

Well, the economy is driving down traffic at Best Buy, which really has hurt CD.  Only 900 outlets, with limited traffic this year.

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