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#801 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns N' Roses planning new album - 'It's too good not to happen!' » 427 weeks ago
Yeah. Ughhhh...
I really expected them to release something the night before Slane.
If they play something new, I've always thought it'd be at Rock In Rio, but I don't expect it.
Axl is a fucking procrastinator he never finishes what he starts.
Yep. He's like a late career Orson Welles. I wonder if was due to lack of funding like Welles or sheer laziness.
He was putting an album together as late as summer of 2015 as evidenced by the famous ghost photo. Him and Pitman did an extensive studio work.
Pitman had his fingerprints on everything in the studio. Him leaving was pretty damning and not just leaving but suing Axl to boot.
The "oldies tour" thing wasn't just sour grapes, it was Pitman saying Axl was raising the white flag. I remember comments from Pitman awhile back saying what's great about Axl is he doesn't whore his past, he's about creating new stuff. You can argue that point but it just goes to show...
#802 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns N' Roses planning new album - 'It's too good not to happen!' » 427 weeks ago
The problem with making a fine art rock record is that it's a fine art rock record. It has to have something for wide commercial audiences.
The items above would cost at least a million, probably a couple. The label would make a base 10% and want to farm it out to sporting events, movies, and the like. Can they with CD2? Doubtful by and large.
The thing is it's an important time for the GNR brand. To release electrofunk Bucket fuckery (as much as I'd love that) at this point is negligent from a brand management perspective. If an album is released it'll be the closest approximation to AFD2 you can get.
A new record would likely be somewhat creatively safe and then Axl can inch toward his trilogy plan from there if (and it's a big if) the Chinese era stuff is released as Guns N Roses.
I'm still in the camp that it's never coming. Too much bullshit, not enough reasons, and that's what the tea leaves are telling me.
#803 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns N' Roses planning new album - 'It's too good not to happen!' » 427 weeks ago
Label's are about the brand usually. And the GNR brand would either sink or sell an album.
I agree. It'd be interesting to know if it was rejected.
In my view, if CD2 has one song on it as good as "Better" it's marketable and worth releasing. If it's leads are "Oh My God" and "Silkworms" circa 2012...
If it was rejected, it could've been due to the music itself but just as likely it was due to the brand value and the way the market was trending at the time. The album was largely more of the same in Axl's own wards, DJ Ashba was the lead guitarist of Guns N' Roses, and Axl fired his manager and was in the process of suing his former manager. This isn't exactly a recipe for operating in the black.
I think Axl left a couple of breadcrumbs with his "even if executives at the record company like it" and "it's about working with a producer" comments at the China Exchange. The label probably doesn't see much money to be made there. They know Axl is going to play hardball, they're not a young act, and they don't have a producer to pimp out on a near completed project. And to boot, now that Slash is back, Axl is holding all the cards.
You'll see it but I don't know if soon's the word.
#804 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns N' Roses planning new album - 'It's too good not to happen!' » 427 weeks ago
I start to believe the rumours that Axl handed in an album in 2010 but was rejected by the label. It all makes sense.
I think that was supposedly 2012, if memory serves.
I kinda thing maybe there's nothing happening for him.
A fair point.
It's arguable how much of the remaining CD material has vocals and would probably be about the old band dissolution (Atlas, Jackie Chan). You wonder if Axl wrote new lyrics 2004-2006 since we know most if not all of his vocals were recorded much earlier.
#805 Re: Guns N' Roses » What GNR songs are still in your rotation? » 427 weeks ago
I listened to 3/4 of CD instrumental today during a long run and long cooldown walk and it made me appreciate its brilliance.
With vocals it becomes overwhelmingly dense and the mix becomes pretty obnoxious but instrumentally it's all quite good.
Tommys bass work is underrated.
#806 Re: Guns N' Roses » European Tour 2017 Thread » 427 weeks ago
That cartoon someone made of Jarmo doing this exact 180 (or would it be a 360?) always made me laugh. Tried looking for it just now but looks like someone has had it removed from the web.
#807 Re: The Sunset Strip » Van Halens 'Right Now' Intro » 428 weeks ago
Yeah.
Beginning reminded me of Mr Crowley, then besides the VH stuff, it reminded me of Won't Get Fooled again.
#808 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns N' Roses planning new album - 'It's too good not to happen!' » 428 weeks ago
"Slash's songs written from the ground up have been pretty boring and not really fit the style of GN'R"
I stand by my statement.
I was mainly thinking of his post-GNR work but also the Illusions stuff.
Motorhead inspired speed metal is for the birds.
#809 Guns N' Roses » What GNR songs are still in your rotation? » 428 weeks ago
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I listen to Better and Jungle (2006 Rock Am Ring) during workouts.
I'll sprinkle in Sympathy and Nightrain (2006 Rock Am Ring) on longer runs.
I occasionally listen to There Was A Time (1999 leak), Madagascar (2002 Fleet Center), and Civil War, Breakdown, and Estranged from UYI II.
Really no Appetite. Doesn't really do much for me or I find it annoying.
Oh yeah, I forgot, I sometimes listen to You're Crazy (1988 Fox Late Night)
#810 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns N' Roses planning new album - 'It's too good not to happen!' » 428 weeks ago
Axl replaced the members methodically.
You had a punk style drummer that vibed with the punk style bassist with a blue collar work ethic.
I think Robin was ultimately miscast in the Slash role instead of the Izzy role. If you look at the early leaks as the blueprint for the project, it was going to be a "stripped down" album with a 70s classic rock psychedelia that was mixed with industrial sound. In that sense, Robin could do a decent job of jumping back and forth between those two roles. If Slash rejoined he could probably take over some of the bluesier stuff.
Instead Bucket joined and eventually filled that role. Slash's songs written from the ground up have been pretty boring and not really fit the style of GN'R. Same goes for Bucket, really.
Back to the circle, eh gents? 
