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#821 Re: Guns N' Roses » Bumblefoot responds to rumors about him » 776 weeks ago
Ali I am not a professional and I am not in guns n roses, so your point really does not make any sense, and the funny thing is you are making my point for me, because you are pointing out a thread where I said Axl was wrong to call madison a cunt, so it just proves its not just because I dont like Ron I called him out on this. So thanks for proving my point Ali, great job
That's a great justification, Dave. Completely lets you out of being responsible for your comments. "Oh, I'm not a professional so I can say whatever I want and be as hypocritical as I want".
The point is very simple and easy to understand if you weren't blinded whatever it is that prevents you from seeing what happened here:
People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
You yourself have made "stupid rape comments" that have been offensive and yet you criticize Ron for doing the same in your estimation.
Ali
#822 Re: Guns N' Roses » Bumblefoot responds to rumors about him » 776 weeks ago
Yeah it never had a chance because what Ron said is not defendable by any sane person. If he would have released that professional statement before his stupid rape comments, then everything would have been fine.
Dave, frankly put, you are an enormous hypocrite. I've wanted to refrain from pointing out your hypocrisy in criticizing Ron for his "stupid rape comments", but you won't let it go and your insistence on trying to claim the moral high ground is absurd.
Here is what Dave said about me or to me indirectly on MyGNR. As you'll note, it could very easily qualify as a "stupid rape comment" and at the time it offended me quite a bit since he made it personal by referring to my mother for some odd reason. It stuck in my mind because I thought any comment about rape and someone's family member was completely uncalled for. Sound familiar, Dave?
http://www.mygnrforum.com/index.php?sho … &p=2597905
"Ali is the biggest Axl ball sack licker I have ever seen.
Axl could rape his mother and he would think its ok because its Axl Rose."
Ali
#823 Re: Guns N' Roses » GnR 2011 North American Tour? (*Rumor*) » 776 weeks ago
ppp wrote:Jamester, since you are answering document questions, could you tell us which emails MSL mentioned do and do not exist? It's my understand the Thoughts on Slash/VR/Duff/Enemies List/Irv/Bumbfoot stuff is fake.
At this point I am still trying to figure out if all of it is fake.
I did already submit I saw ***NO BBF Vs DJ files.*** I also stated that I did not think the rumor came from MSL. I think it was some other forum's speculation?
from that metal sludge-Alleged email list
"053. December 2005 Slash email threatening photographer."
I remember seeing this file. And wondering why it was kept and why GNR camp would even care. OLD and seemed nothing to do with this camp. I know more questions rite? But I do not have the answers.Slash/VR (some already available info)
IMO not for public consumption. Only my speculation but I felt from what I read and the verbal overview provided. It was possibly chatter back and forth possibly leading to and or dealing with Guitar hero and how it seemed to promote VR on Slashes GnR reputation and GnR hits. Again only my feelings and speculation. I did not read the whole file. IMHO this alleged email screen shot is not the juicy tabloid type thing people were hoping for.
IMO it had a misleading title added by MSL for gain/excitementDuff
MSL showed Only one file dealing with this that I remember. It seemed a mostly positive opinion in an alleged back and forth email or im/txt chat.
I feel this was private conversation between 2 people. Not a big deal. And not some ground breaking thing. I wish I would have skipped this file. and sometimes wonder if the whole meet was worth it.Alleged Enemies List
**Already available via MSL **
These files contain such a list. Tho it is only a small part of a much bigger file. MSL provided only a few seconds to view this file. From the overview, MSL comments and what I did read it seemed a bit out of context. there was no such title saying "Enemy list" that i noticed. I can not confirm if any names were added or removed.Come to think of it is Alleged and mostly out of context.
Bumblefoots advice in the other forum haunts me where he says avoid the drama. I read it to late after my trip
Thanks Jamester.
What you said just makes me think more and more that MSL was just dressing everything up and spinning it to make it sound more provocative so he could try and sell the info. It seems like there was a big gap between what MSL made the documents out to be and what they actually were - hence the lack of context.
Ali
#824 Re: Guns N' Roses » lets talk about recent happenings then » 776 weeks ago
buzzsaw wrote:The problem with jamester is that he's had time to post other things, but still hasn't addressed what did or didn't happen. What exactly is he waiting for? Supposedly he's not involved in any of this, so there is no reason for him not to share what he knows when his intention going in was to be our eyes and ears.
This is the problem. Jamester was supposed to be the guy to figure out if MSL was full of shit or not, but didn't deliver.
Now they both look like they're full of shit.
I don't agree. It seems like they did meet and MSL is lying. In looking back at his posts, Jamester has described what he saw, just maybe not to the extent some of us hoped for. The fact that MSL lied about meeting Jamester, regardless of the reasoning, shows that he will lie when he feels the need to and casts his claims in a different light for me.
Ali
#825 Re: Guns N' Roses » lets talk about recent happenings then » 776 weeks ago
Jameste,r there is no need for reciepts and security video. If Aussie says he saw your pms and what you say is true, that should be all we need.
People just want to know what he has/doesn't have so we can end this once and for all.
Agreed 100%
Ali
#826 Re: Guns N' Roses » lets talk about recent happenings then » 776 weeks ago
i dont want that discussion in here though...when jamester is ready to respond or whatever he can send me a pm....or any other mod.... and the thread will be reopened about his orlando feild trip
Understood.
Jamester, I hope you will consider posting a more formal response. It would help to put this whole MSL-memory stick saga into its proper perspective.
Ali
#827 Re: Guns N' Roses » lets talk about recent happenings then » 776 weeks ago
Jamester, now that you've been proven to be truthful you shoudl tell people what MSL has and what he doesn't have. If he doesn't have anything exciting, then lets end his 15 mintues of fame.
I wouldn't mind that at all if you are up for it Jamester. He has been holding this over the GN'R online community for a month now and if people can know one way or another how much fact there is to this, then everyone can move on. After all, it doesn't sound like MSL is going to release anything anytime soon judging by his recent comments.
Ali
#828 Re: Guns N' Roses » lets talk about recent happenings then » 776 weeks ago
At this risk of derailing this thread from the purpose that Neemo posted it for, I took Jamester up on his offer and checked his account over on MSL's forum. What Jamester said is correct. He had the messages from MSL in his inbox. It appears MSL is bullshitting about not meeting Jamester. Presumably yet another part of his game - whatver that is.
Thanks for chiming in with that. Very interesting. Why MSL is lying, what his game is, isn't all that intriguing to me. The fact that he IS lying makes me think even more that while he may have some e-mails and whatnot, he is likely taking things out of context and embellishing them in that list he came up with. It also means to me that what he has said cannot and should not be taken at face value.
Ali
#829 Re: Guns N' Roses » lets talk about recent happenings then » 776 weeks ago
Just my opinion.
Be a hot topic forum or not. Get off the fence. Small sandbox Vs Big Playground.
This causes labor. Find the right mods for the job.1.State clear posting guidelines.
2.Keep threads on topic.
3.Delete one liner turd tossing posts. Forum members should qualify statements with why they feel the way they do.
4.Appoint thread and section mods.
5. If someone myself, MSL, MYGNR anyone post proof and sources should be in thread. (I offered PW to 2 mods for screen shot verification to keep my thread open.)
6.Not everyone will ever always agree.
You offered your password to your MSL board account to two mods so they can see the PMs you got from him? Is that right?
If so, why doesn't someone just check his account for the MSL PMs and then come back and report and we can be done with at least the Jamester vs. MSL on the alleged meeting?
Ali
#830 Re: Guns N' Roses » lets talk about recent happenings then » 776 weeks ago
Well, I thought Jamester was going to post a formal reply to MSL's claims that Jamester lied about the meeting. I'd be curious to hear Jamester's reply, if he's still interested in posting it. If it can be proven that Jamester did meet with MSL and MSL lied about it, that may be of interest to some as one could reasonably take the position that if MSL lied about that then there may be other things he is lying about or embellishing.
If MSL is telling the truth and Jamester is lying, then at worst, it's as if the proposed meeting was never proposed and it's right back to where this started from since before the alleged meeting.
Ali


