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#861 Re: Guns N' Roses » DR. PEPPER ISSUES CHALLENGE TO AXL ROSE! » 900 weeks ago

PaSnow wrote:

Guns N Roses is a registered trademark. Therefore, you cannot use the term without consent given.

Untrue, one does not need to pay a company to use their trademark. Take Line6 (guitar amps), for example: http://www.line6.com/legalDetail.html
They use their competitors trademarks to point out the quality of their tones & sounds, you can bet your sweet ass on the fact that they didn't ask permission to do so.

Again, a trademark can be freely used to describe the product associated with it, without permission from the trademark owner. And think about it: if Pepsi can advertise their drink by comparing the product to CocaCola's and use their brand name, logo, etc... in their commercials, why would a non-competitor have to pay, or ask permission to use the trademark in their advertising campains?

As long as they don't tarnish or dilute the trademark's value, they can flat out do whatever they want with it.

#862 Re: Guns N' Roses » DR. PEPPER ISSUES CHALLENGE TO AXL ROSE! » 900 weeks ago

Backslash wrote:

Journalists and DJs don't stand to profit from using the GNR name.  They're protected by free speech and freedom of the press anyhow.  If Dr Pepper is using the GNR name to promote its product, then its likely that they received permission.  Otherwise, the company would face legal ramifications.  Advertising campaigns can be very tricky, but if they're connected to a separate entities products or services and that entity does not endorse the connection, that's the tort of passing off.  Such can be subject to C&D orders or lawsuits.

Hmmm, I don't think that's correct.

I'm gonna assume "Guns N' Roses" is a trademark. The only way you can infringe upon a trademark, is by using it for your own product, or choosing a product name confusingly similar to an existing product AND doing so for a product that could be regarded as direct competition. The exception to this would be what they call "tarnishment" and/or "dillution", which both drive down the value of the brand or trademark in question. It seems obvious to me that everything in Dr Pepper's statement is worden and written so carefully as to not "tarnish" the GNR brand name. So even if they are not in cahoots, there is no way that GNR or Axl could sue over this, not even in the "United Litigious States Of America".

If I were a lawyer trying to make a quick buck, however, I might suggest that all off the fluff talk in Dr Pepper's press release is "obviously sarcastic", and therefore tarnishes the GNR name by making fun of their inability to release a record. If I would do that, I would be a bad lawyer who's ripping his client off, 'cause there's no way in hell that pig would fly.

#863 Re: Guns N' Roses » DR. PEPPER ISSUES CHALLENGE TO AXL ROSE! » 900 weeks ago

Communist China wrote:

^ At least Dr. Pepper didn't offer to shit in BH's bucket. They have more taste than certain band members do. Certain band members that add nothing to the band's sound and aren't name Richard or Frank.

Cheers, I laughed out loud when I read that 16

#864 Re: Guns N' Roses » DR. PEPPER ISSUES CHALLENGE TO AXL ROSE! » 900 weeks ago

The only thing that makes me think this is a Dr. Pepper initiative without GNR being in the know, is the references to BH and Slash in the press release. I think it would be quite distasteful if this was a GNR sanctioned press release.

#865 Re: Guns N' Roses » DR. PEPPER ISSUES CHALLENGE TO AXL ROSE! » 900 weeks ago

it's on CNN ffs.
it's even in the local national newspapers in Belgium.

It's been a loooong time since GNR has had this type of impact on the mainstream media. If they don't pursue this, they're the dumbest fucks since the dawn of mankind 5.

#866 Re: The Garden » My Psychotic Mumblings While Stoned (part 1) » 900 weeks ago

$8.6/gallon in Belgium...
It's been more than 10 years since we've had to pay less than $4/gallon...

Thank god I don't have to pay for my gas. Long live the company car smile

#867 Re: Guns N' Roses » DR. PEPPER ISSUES CHALLENGE TO AXL ROSE! » 900 weeks ago

yikes

It's incredible how much info Axl's tiny little message contains!

1. It's in the record company's hands.
2. It will come out this year.
3. It will have BH on it.
4. Axl has no input, or very little input on the promotion part of things, he's just waiting for the album to be released, just like us. He seems to be happy with this initiative, which might force the record company to release it!

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#868 Re: Guns N' Roses » NEW Marc Canter interview » 900 weeks ago

bigbri wrote:

That's the point basically. There are no real lead guitar players in Slash's mold these days. No lead guitars period. That's why I don't think it's necessary for Slash to be in GNR. That sound is just not catching anyone's ear. All of those guys you mentioned, virtual unknowns. GNR doesn't need a Slash.

As for Buckethead. I never claimed he was a legend or that he's influenced anyone. I'm just responding to Slashers who think he's god's gift to guitar. Bucket is on an island by himself, and that's the way it should be. He fit GNR simply because he's different. The same-ol, same-ol shit isn't working. VR is a perfect example.

Fair enough, but if your reason for wanting to keep Slash out of GNR is the fact that no one cares for lead guitar anymore, it strikes me as odd that you think BH would be a better fit. He was basically a soloist in GNR (from what we've heard, that is), at least Slash would contribute a riff or a melody now and then, and that's what makes the bands I mentioned so "popular": they go back to that sleazy, riff-based hard rock sound. Music comes and goes in waves. There's a huge disco revival, and garage rock is making a comeback as well. Next on the list is hard-rock! (i hope wink )

#869 Re: Guns N' Roses » NEW Marc Canter interview » 900 weeks ago

Communist China wrote:

Actually TheMole, I find that guy from A7x's playing to be like Slash's on several occasions.

Could be, I'm not really an A7X fan. Synyster Gates is his name, right? I'll have to look it up sometime.

Well, it doesn't surprise me though. Slash does nothing special, he didn't invent anything new, didn't really expand on what was already known or anything like that -Buckethead does, and all credit to him for doing so; I really like his "moodier" solo stuff - but he does what he does extremely well. Even the Fall To Pieces Solo is a phenomenal piece of music.

I'd take Slash over any of his successors any day: GNR (AFD and UYI) are what got me into rock music in the first place, mostly because of his playing. And to be quite honest, three full albums worth of material isn't nearly enough to satisfy my thirst for GNR's specific brand of hard rock. There's no other band out there (nor has there been) doing what they did, and doing it as good as they did.

Feel free to call me "stuck in the 80's", or any of that bullcrap, but I tend to think music is timeless and experimental and new music&genres just for the sake of being experimental and new have never been able to capture my imagination. I don't care if it's been done before, if it's done right it's worthy of my attention.

People have always sought inspiration in the past, they do it in movies all the time, why should it be a taboo in music?

#870 Re: Guns N' Roses » NEW Marc Canter interview » 900 weeks ago

bigbri wrote:

Ha, it's funny you say that. Jack White actually has more in common with Buckethead than Slash. 16 Go to buckethead.tk and ask for the JW fans, they'll come flying out of the woodwork. Besides, the Stripes aren't exactly a shining example of success. JW is more into the Raconteurs than the Stripes.

If the Stripes, who really are in a class of their own, because their last album was piano based, and this one was a little bit of everything, and Buckecherry are carrying the torch for Slash, he didn't create quite the generation of guitarists as we might have thought. Definitely no modern guitar players are playing in the same mold as Slash, especially not Jack White.

I'm not sure I understand what you're trying to say, te be honest...

So, I browsed through the billboard "hot modern rock" tracks. Top 20 of them... didn't find a single one that had a solo in there. Lot's of "nu-metal" type riffs, lot's of boring old "alternative" music, lot's of "skate punk" music.

Then I started thinking: in today's mainstream music scene, how many bands actually feature someone you could call a "lead guitarist"? Of those guitarists, how many of them are household names to the average music buying john doe? Not too many, I gather...

Which triggered me to go back in time a little: the guys from Primal Scream, Noel Gallagher, that guy from Lenny Kravitz's band, Stone Gossard (Pearl Jam), Andrew Stockdale (Wolfmother), whoever plays guitar in Jet, Paul Mahon (The Answer), that guy from towers of london...

All blues-based, near-hard-rock. Not all of them very good, but more-or-less in Slash's "sound spectrum". So, apart from the more metal oriented guitarists (Mick Thompson, and that A7X guy), what else is out there in the mainstream that I'm missing, I'd like to know...

Maybe then you could take the time to show me where the clear BH influences are in popular music these days.

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