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#81 Re: Guns N' Roses » GNR headlining Governor's Ball » 674 weeks ago
the backlash shouldn't be a surprise to anyone. the lineup is a cool lineup but let's face it Gn'R is way out of place on that bill. It's quite a stupid decision "style wise" to have them on such a bill let alone headlining. Can't blame them for trying but nobody should be surprised by this. There are a lot of bands I like that I could see playing a festival together yet if you threw Gn'R on the bill I'd think it's stupid. Say you had Ozzfest and decided to throw the Killers on there., I like the Killers but any clown can see how poor a match that would be. That's basically what this is.
Guns N' Roses should drop out and make a fucking album..... duh,.
#82 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » Slash's new video for "ANASTASIA" » 674 weeks ago
My live in sydney video has got alot iv
Holy fuck! 
#83 Re: Guns N' Roses » Judge officially dismisses Activision lawsuit » 674 weeks ago
Bono wrote:RussTCB wrote:But the movie thing I'll never understand. Maybe a better GN'R historian than I can confirm but didn't the Black Hawk Down thing get denied because Axl only offered up the re-record WttJ? I could swear I heard that somewhere along the line but I don't know if it's based in fact.
If that' the case it would be even more pathetic. Axl wants to act all noble and be like his big concern is the integrity of the brand yet he's willing to hurt the integrity of the movie that wanted to use the song as it was the song playing during the real life moment but Axl wants them to use a newly recorded version that didn't even exists at the time of these events? For what reason other than attempting to erase the old band. If they weren't going to recreate the scene with his new version of the song then nobody was using the song period. Makes Axl look like such a bitch in my opinion cause the song was part of the ambience of the real life events and they wanted to recreate that and Axl wasn't willing to allow them to keep that aspect of the story's integrity based on his own self serving and spiteful reasons. Had absolutely nothing to do with integrity of the brand.
Oh I agree. I didn't mean to come across as defending that decision, I was just hoping someone else remembered it.
Sometimes through the years, you read a theory posted or something then (if you're me) you just eventually think it was a fact
No I didn't think you were defending it. I was just saying if that's the case it's almost even worse than simply refusing to lisence the original recording.
#84 Re: Guns N' Roses » BUMBLEFOOT Says Waiting For A New GUNS N' ROSES Album To Get Done Is ' » 674 weeks ago
To each his own of course, but those that like the album (and there are a few) tend to really like it. Was going through CD song by song on youtube the other day and I gotta say the responses were overwhelmingly positive. Not the cross appeal of old of course, not even of Contraband, but those that enjoy it tend to hold it in very high regard.
Well obviously those who like it will be the ones commenting going on 5 years after it's release. Those who don't like it aren't even bothering to look the songs up. You could say this exact same thing about any band. The comments on the videos are pretty much always overwhelmingly positive years after cause those who don't care for it aren't listening anymore.
I did not say he's creating symphonies. I said compared to the ex members he does. It may take forever, and many might not like the style or sound, but there's a very good reason he still has active forums where rabid debates take place while Slash don't and never have had. His music simply touches people more profoundly. To the point where people write elaborated essays and even haters can't stay away. As much as the Slash crowd hammers on that his solo stuff is the shit you certainly don't see that type of dedication. Take that for what you will.
Well I don't take it for much. I haven't posted on a U2 forum in over a year and I'm much more "rabid" U2 fan than Gn'R fan and have way more dedication to U2 than Gn'R. Posting on an "Axl" site is about the debate, the conversation, the opinions. Axl is a cluterfuck of drama. I like Slash's material better but I don't need to go to a forum to discuss things case the wheels stay in motion with Slash, just like they do with U2. I know Slash is doing his thing, like U2 and I like it and aside from that, that's all that matters. There's no doubt many people posting on a Gn'R forum are doing so based on the car crash type drama. To sugest that a person's activity or inactivity on a forum is a measure of how touched they are by the music is a tad ridiculous. You're in essence saying that somone like me is more touched by Axl's music than u2's. Not even remotely the case. If my being here was based on my love for CD I'd have stopped posting in 2008.
Slash and co sounds more like the old band, but I don't find the quality of their songs to be even close. Sometimes I will hear something that could have been a good GN'R song but they never go that extra mile. Maybe not too surprising when the ultimate philosophy seems to be "make a record in 1 week and hit the bar". I tried listening to Anastasia again since there's so much raving about it in certain circles. It's actually a very good example of how a decent riff and solo won't get you very far when you have Whitesnake doing lead vocals. The reason I got into GN'R was that they rose above all those bands. They tried to be something more. Far as I can tell that does not seem to be the case anymore for Slash.
You make it sound as though Slash's productivity is a bad thing. I'll sure as hell take his approach over Axl's 1 album ever 20 years approach. I agree in that I think Slash has done a lot of songs that sound like they coud be good Gn'R songs. What they're missing is a certain voice and that's it really. BUT I hear songs on CD that would've been good if they weren't so Axlized. Terrible production, too many layers, Songs that never go anywhere special, guitar solos that remind you how sorely missed Slash is, songs with no identity, going for the extra mile way too often numerous times in indvidual songs to the point they sound like "try hard" songs. CD with a regular band of singer, drummer, bass, guitar(Slash) and keys would've been great. Slash's stuff with Axl's vocals would be great. They are both missing something BUT in my opinion Axl misses Slash WAY MORE than Slash misses Axl. Slash still makes music I enjoy. Axl not so much.
As for rising above and trying something more.... AFD is a straight ahead, kickass rock record. Simple, powerful, amazing. Leave the forced epics at the door and do what you do. Axl forgot that long ago and it's showed in his inability to recapture the imagination of the public and half his fanbase. At least Slash is trying. If rising above and trying to be something more means doing nothing than fuck that noise.
#85 Re: The Sunset Strip » Bon Jovi Discussion » 674 weeks ago
First the bad news: The new single in my opinion is awful. Such a sad effort from this band hethr its a single or not. Really dissapointing. Sounds like something Train or The Fray would do.
Now the good news: What they just did for their fans is one of the coolest things I've ever hard a band do. Freaking awesome.
#86 Re: Guns N' Roses » Judge officially dismisses Activision lawsuit » 674 weeks ago
But the movie thing I'll never understand. Maybe a better GN'R historian than I can confirm but didn't the Black Hawk Down thing get denied because Axl only offered up the re-record WttJ? I could swear I heard that somewhere along the line but I don't know if it's based in fact.
If that' the case it would be even more pathetic. Axl wants to act all noble and be like his big concern is the integrity of the brand yet he's willing to hurt the integrity of the movie that wanted to use the song as it was the song playing during the real life moment but Axl wants them to use a newly recorded version that didn't even exists at the time of these events? For what reason other than attempting to erase the old band. If they weren't going to recreate the scene with his new version of the song then nobody was using the song period. Makes Axl look like such a bitch in my opinion cause the song was part of the ambience of the real life events and they wanted to recreate that and Axl wasn't willing to allow them to keep that aspect of the story's integrity based on his own self serving and spiteful reasons. Had absolutely nothing to do with integrity of the brand.
Or that Glee shit but me is just setting money on fire by not letting use any songs on movies
Stuff like that doesn't even bother me anymore. Why should it. It doesn't diminish what already exists and all it would do is expose Gn'R to an entirely new generation of people. I don't see how it's a bad thing. It doesn't make me wanna run out and grab the Glee soundtrack but it might make sme young kid wanna go check out a Gn'R record.
#87 Re: Guns N' Roses » Judge officially dismisses Activision lawsuit » 674 weeks ago
One of the issues Slash had with Axl was that Axl was preventing the old music from being used in more films, which was keeping them from making more money. I can't remember all of them, but I know Old School was one of them.
That whole licensing thing is strange. You say okay to "Can't Hardly Wait," but no to "Old School.":
Exactly which shows this idea that Axl is concerned with the integrity of the brand when it comes to licensing music is bullshit. And let's be real like any of us are going to give a shit if a Guns song plays in the next Jennifer Aniston romantic comedy. Honesly who cares and how does that diminish the brand? It doesn't.
Black Hawk Down? Just further proof that Axl doesn't give a shit about he integrity of lisencing the material to qaulity projects but rather says no to most just to spite the others and to hold "the power"
#88 Re: Guns N' Roses » BUMBLEFOOT Says Waiting For A New GUNS N' ROSES Album To Get Done Is ' » 674 weeks ago
Apart from BH nobody in the band have really done anything remarkable creatively outside of GN'R. I'd propose the same to be true for the old band after they left. Ok you have Slither which I'd easily consider the ex members best work since 91, but that song competes with something like Pretty Tied Up or Out Ta Get Me, not YCBM or Jungle. One of the reasons of course is the unique voice of Axl, but it's not the main one. What they're lacking is that little extra in structure, arrangements and vocal melodies. The ability to sniff out a song, to find the perfect hook at the perfect time.
I'll be labelled a hater for this but CD to me isn't even on par with songs like PTU or Out Ta Get Me, or The Garden or etc etc. CD isn't a very good abum in my opinion and as more time goes on the songs have even less appeal to me. I don't even remember the last time I listened to the album. You said somewhere else that Axl is creating Bach like symphonies and no offence but I laughed at that. I thought it was so ridiculous to suggest Axl's CD era materal is that genius. To each their own though.
Truly great bands usually have two guys like this. Lennon/McCartney (Harrison probably belongs too, so that's three), Jagger/Richards (you might include Taylor since their best work was done with him), Page/Plant, Waters/Barrett. In Gn'R it was Axl/Izzy and "these days" you could say Tobias is one since he seems to play such a large part on CD despite being a rythm guitarist who hasn't even been mentioned in connection to the band since 02.
Slash is David Gilmour. Integral part of a great band, contributing to and being indispensable to some fantastic work. After Waters left however he was nothing. Even having the two other remaining original members there to help him, both of which have writing credit on some of the best Floyd songs, the two albums he was fronting wasn't even close to being Floyd. On the other hand, The Wall in which Waters received something like 99% of the royalties was Floyd to the core. Different, but very much in the proper vein of the band.
Likewise I consider CD to be "real" Guns in that the proper care and subtlety have been taken in structuring the songs, albeit with mostly different (and at times you could say inferior) players. In that sense I'm not all that worried that Thal or DJ is going to give us some shitty Poision esque album. Either they'll deliver or they'll be rejected and possibly replaced. Still, the focus should definitely be on getting out the remainder of the CD sessions. You just don't waste the talent of BH and Finck like that. I think we might be looking at a mix, to include the new guys. Maybe give em 4 or 5 songs on top of what's already there. How easy that's going to be accomplished in GN'R land is another matter of course.
I think Contraband and both Slash solo albums shit all over CD. Libertad however is not as good as CD. So again I can't help but shake my head when someone says Slash is nothing without Axl which is essentially what you're saying here and that Slash's work post Guns sucks while CD is in the same vein as classic Guns.
Neither have reached the level of classic Guns but VR and Slash are way more in the vein of it than CD in my opinion. Slash's Anastasia blows anything on CD outta the fucking water in my opinion.
#89 Re: Guns N' Roses » BUMBLEFOOT Says Waiting For A New GUNS N' ROSES Album To Get Done Is ' » 674 weeks ago
Axl can't cover his own songs. Axl is Gnr at this point.....they are Gnr. Just a version you don't like. Just my two. I've grown tired of this Gnr as well.
Are fucking kidding me?! The last part of my post said I want them to do something and pointed to how talented they are. At what point did I say I don't like this band? I'm so sick of people on this board telling me I don't like this band because I question what the fuck they're doing. It's such bullshit because I've never once said that or even alluded to that. In fact I've long said this band kicks ass. In fact I think I was the first one years ago to say they should get rid of the singer and actually put out an album if he doesn't want to. Never have I said I don't like the band. Wish some of you would drop that shit.
@ Russ: There's a big difference between asking what this band has actually done to warrent being Guns N' Roses and saying they aren't Guns N' Roses. I know they are Gn'R so do something to warrent it other than tour other people's music. And when people point to this version of the band as their favourite band I ask why and how? What have they done to be anyone's favourite?
#90 Re: Guns N' Roses » Judge officially dismisses Activision lawsuit » 674 weeks ago
he's so dellusional and petty. Without Slash He doesn't have the career he has.... had. Whaa fucking nutjob to agree to allow them to use Welcome to the Jungle but only if they agree not to use Slash's OR VR's image. Yeah ok he's trying to promote a new band, then fucking do it and stop trying to make people forget who the musicans were on the old songs. Pure ass clown mentality. I'm glad he lost this case just based on sheer douchery.
