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#81 Re: Guns N' Roses » We don't really expect a new setlist do we? » 203 weeks ago
and with the leaked set list we didn't get a new setlist lmao
they just put in hard school / pretty tied up in one slot and that is IF they even play either of them
this band is such a joke they have so many UYI songs they could add
hopefully they actually play other UYI songs like breakdown, locomotive, or anything off those albums.
it looks like the didn't even change the order of songs
#82 Re: Guns N' Roses » We don't really expect a new setlist do we? » 204 weeks ago
AgesOfTheIce wrote:You people are on crack. No one's more of a CD era purist than me and I'd rather have Zodiac, Soul Monster & Berlin in their original forms than this, but the original Hardschool demo is pure uninspired nonsense. Boring intro, solos that don't fit, ect. Slash gives it a more UYI feel and gives the song a rawer, meaner feel. This is a huge improvement.
Disagree. It’s a middling song, just a riff and a drumbeat but the intro and outro are killer. It’s the wind-up and the pitch and a sort of unwinding feeling. Axl’s the weak link after the first couple verses and his lyrics are pretty good. I’ll give you uninspired but Freeses drumming is killer and has some bright moments. No bullshit rock vibe. I like Slash’s sorta groovy bits on this new version but Frank’s playing is flat as a pancake and it reminds me of AC/DC in the worst ways. You can’t say meaner vibe about a song with backing vocals going HARD SKOOOOOOO.
Maybe the studio version will sound better. I agree the drumming is terrible with Frank, a bar drummer would be better.
The intro to this song was always meh, sure its a little better and like I said the middle part the bridge I guess is better but all the stripped otu guitar parts make this song sound like a husk now. Ill take Robin and BHs guitar work on the song over what we hear from Slash in this version.
#83 Re: Guns N' Roses » We don't really expect a new setlist do we? » 204 weeks ago
AgesOfTheIce wrote:You people are on crack. No one's more of a CD era purist than me and I'd rather have Zodiac, Soul Monster & Berlin in their original forms than this, but the original Hardschool demo is pure uninspired nonsense. Boring intro, solos that don't fit, ect. Slash gives it a more UYI feel and gives the song a rawer, meaner feel. This is a huge improvement.
Yep, Slash made it sound closer to an actual GN’R song, yet people are saying he butchered it…?
Yeah right, get Axl’s nuts outta your mouth, it’s affecting your hearing!
you are the one who needs to get slashs nuts out of your mouth
wipe your chin why you are at it
the song is a husk what it was before
they had to dumb it down for slash and take out all the good guitar parts
but keep sucking dude
#84 Re: Guns N' Roses » We don't really expect a new setlist do we? » 204 weeks ago
they totally butched the song and took out all the good guitars.
#85 Re: Guns N' Roses » We don't really expect a new setlist do we? » 204 weeks ago
davegnfnr2k wrote:You don't have to pay artists to play cover songs at a concert. You only have to pay if you release them like on CD or digital music.
In Australia the venue pays an annual license fee to cover the songwriters of all music played in the venue - every artist submits a setlist and it's split between them at the end of the year. The cost to a big venue like a stadium is proportionally more than a small venue like a bar.
End result, Axl wouldn't have to pay pitman if he plays silkworms, but it would cause pitman to get paid (from the performing rights cut taken from the venue)
Thus if you had the right level of spite, you might withhold a song just to stop that happening.
Not saying Axl does this...but if he's as much of an asshole as I can be in the right mood then it's at least a possibility.
that is not how it is in the US
Also it depends on what the contracts are for Axls hired guns. He could say you only get a set fee for what you play live and not royalties
#86 Re: Guns N' Roses » We don't really expect a new setlist do we? » 204 weeks ago
davegnfnr2k wrote:AgesOfTheIce wrote:I think Slash's Hardschool is way better than the demo. It really sounds like a modern You Could Be Mine type rocker. On the other hand, I'm afraid that songs like Soul Monster are probably lost forever since they can't be easily "Slashified" in that manner. Why the hell couldn't Axl have just released CD II in 2015?
Slash's hard school was a disaster. You really think that was good?
As for something like Soul Monster, not sure why Axl just doesn't let Fortus do the BH stuff Fortus can shred and would be able to handle all of BHs stuffbut of course Axl wants to give Slash pretty much all fo the CD solos that both Finck and BH did. So dumb.Slash improved Hardschool to actually sound like a Guns N’ Roses song. If you think that’s butchering it, then you don’t really like GN’R’s classic sound.
The part slash played in that clip already sounded like a classic GNR part on the actual track. Outside of the tapping BH does, it sounds like something that would have been on UYI. That being said, I don't want the BH era stuff to be dumbed down to sound like classic GNR. GNR was evolving and now its going backwards.
Just wait until Slash butchers all the other CD leaked songs like Zodiac and sheep like you will say will defend slash for butchering it
Just let Fortus do the BH stuff, he can way more handle it than slash. its also a slash in the face to give Slash lead on the CD era stuff. Hell at this point Fortus has been in GNR way longer than slash
#87 Re: Guns N' Roses » We don't really expect a new setlist do we? » 204 weeks ago
Yeah it's not like they can't...
But it makes me wonder...is Axl going to pick silkworms as the next single and send Pitman a few extra bucks? Maybe he doesn't mind I dunno....but i notice there's been no dust and bones for many a year and it's easier to sing than most of the songs...
You don't have to pay artists to play cover songs at a concert. You only have to pay if you release them like on CD or digital music.
#88 Re: Guns N' Roses » New leak » 204 weeks ago
so were these leaks confirmed BS or did we never get an answer
#89 Re: Guns N' Roses » Wtf happened to…This I Love » 204 weeks ago
This I love sucks in any form
#90 Re: Guns N' Roses » Wtf happened to…Madagascar » 205 weeks ago
Hearing a studio version of this song for the first time when it leaked is when I realized the perfectionist stuff was just fan fiction/blowing smoke.
Under no circumstances should that vocal take have been considered final...same with a handful of other songs, such as The Blues.
When he brings subpar vocals or lyrics to the table, it causes him to be the weak link in his own band.
Like with most of their songs, the superior version is from the Village discs.
They got it right the first time. It just needed a better vocal take... which wasn't coming.
It makes you wonder if he tried a better vocal take and it was actually worse. Just listen to how bad scrapped vocals are and that was done much later.
The clean vocals in Madagascar sound good, he should have just used those for the whole song
