Smoking Guns wrote:

bigbri wrote:

I have to wonder, the people who say there is no single or no rockers here? Did you download the right songs? How is CD or Rhiad or IRS not a rocker? How is The Blues or Better not a single. I'm not arguing they are perfect rock songs or perfect singles, but if you don't hear rockers or singles, you're kind of showing some ignorance to what we've got.

I said those were rockers.  Better is all over the map, more of an epic type rocker with all kinds of effects.  I am talking about a riff driven straight ahead rocker.  The only one that fits that is Chinese Democracy.  Chinese Democracy won't be a good single.  It has a good solo though.  I like the song.  Better will be a good single, but it isn't a hard rocker like Paradise City, Slither, or Its So Easy.  So I know there are rockers, but I mean straight ahead, riff based rock.  That is why I used Slither as an Example.  Right now Slither owns Chinese Democracy.  I am not saying it owns Better, but Better is a different type of rocker than Slither.  Do you follow me now?

Well, I wasn't talking to you specifically, just the general feeling, like DCK, who doesn't  hear a rocker.

I guess I follow your argument, but now you're breaking down rockers into different sub-groups. To me, Better is a straight ahead riff rocker. The main riff, which I think is quite catchy, plays throughout almost the entire song, save for the Buckethead breakdown in the middle. IRS, while not as catchy, is certainly a riff-based rocker, as is Rhiad, although it to me is more fueled by Tommy's bass. It's throbs underneath the track and sends it along nicely.

And frankly, mentioning Slither alongside PC and It's So Easy is pretty bold, and it's also subliminal, like because it's there it's on the same level, which it isn't. I found Slither to be incredibly not catchy at all. I like Set Me Free much better, but they all pretty much suck considering the credentials of the people  creating them. Slither owns CD in your world, I guess, but not mine.

I wanted to love VR when they got together, but they failed me and disappointed me so much, I almost feel like I deserve a personal apology from each and every one of them for ripping me off and making me look like a fool for months before their release when I was telling my friends how it was gonna be the next GNR. Made me look like a fucking know-nothing idiot. Honestly, other than on GNR boards, I know no physical person who either owns VR records or admits to liking them.

I'm not getting this vibe from the GNR stuff. A dude I work with who I know likes rock actually asked me about the leaks the other day because he read about them on Rollingstone.com, so I sent him a leak, and  he played them in the office on his Mac. We have a laid-back office, so we can do that sort of thing. The opinions were mixed. People were surprised at some of its new sound. Everyone was interested in hearing it though. No one said anything negative. Overly hyped,  yes. Just like the Star Wars prequels, but still far and away better than MOST rock out there now. If there is mainstream rock getting major play that is better, feel free to point it out.