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#911 Re: Management » Is This Forum Dying? » 450 weeks ago

I like forums over social media for a lot of reasons but when people get older these things happen. The subject of your forum not releasing any form of art is pretty much a death knell.

The Chinese saga is a box of riddles so I enjoy talking about that and the interesting music it produced but talking AFD-UYI is like a musical xanax for me.

I'll hold my breath for Jesus for the remainder of the year but then I'm onto whatever my guy Buddha is up to.

#912 Re: Guns N' Roses » Nightrain Official Site » 450 weeks ago

The only reason I entered that contest is because I got the email about it. I literally never check the official site.

The reunion tour is a good tour but it's also basically the 1990s tour. I don't have any interest in seeing remakes of old films and I don't have interest in a nostalgia tour.

This is a nice moment in the sun for the big three but I think Guns N Roses is pretty much over.

#913 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 451 weeks ago

bigbri wrote:

The war on drugs was a terrible thing to undertake. That's all on Reagan.

All drugs, and I mean all, should be legalized, taxed and regulated. I imagine that would solve a lot of very bad problems, create some other minor problems of its own, but in the end not only SAVE money but generate a shit ton of money for all levels of government.

Yeah, that's a weird stance to have, but I've thought this for a long time now.

I think that's an oversimplification.

The war on drugs stew has long been simmering in America. The Nixon administration coined the term, founded the DEA, and passed the Control Substances Act. Reagan was the simply the Huckleberry the Republicans were looking for, someone who'd happily bang the "anti-drug / get tough on crime" drum that he'd been pounding on since his days as Governor in California. He no doubt escalated Nixon's policies but I'm like to blame the former for much of this idiocy, even if it's roots go much deeper.

As a side note, American didn't deserve Jimmy Carter. Too ahead of his time.

Randall Flagg wrote:

We have a major opioid epidemic.  And that's due to a completely legal system.  How are drugs like meth and angel dust remotely helpful?  Who pays for their medical treatment?  Who pays for their unemployment and welfare benefits when they can't obtain a job because they're addicted to heroin or meth?

A completely legal system is a bit of a stretch. I think many Americans have an issue with the role of corporate lobbying in American politics. A smaller subset of that group sees the pharmaceutical industry as very problematic.

As far as who sells the opioids, that's a bunch of makeshift clinics with doctors of dubious merit prescribing the drugs to dealers thinly veiled as patients, exploiting every possible loophole in the process. Some operate illegally, some are perfectly satisfied doing so until they're raided. So you basically have a semi-legal black market.

We don't have a completely legal system that Brian was arguing for and we certainly don't have any compelling education on the issue. It's like any other issue in America with the national discourse is so muddled, it's impossible to have a rational conversation.

#914 Re: Guns N' Roses » Dissecting Chinese Democracy: Track 14 - Prostitute » 451 weeks ago

sp1at wrote:

Prostitute was mentioned by Youth, Sean Beavan, Paul Buckmaster and Merck as one of their favourite tracks. There are lots of ways at looking at this though. It could be a track that was worked on the most. If you work of one track more than another, it becomes more familiar. It may have been favoured by Axl which then bends the opinions of those who work around him. What was the pool of completed tracks that were around at the time for these people. Buckmaster only had four tracks. There are lots of angles to look at this from.

If you look at the saga holistically, I think those comments make a lot of sense.

It's the best singular piece of music from the 1997-1999 era, it contains all of your Guns N' Roses hallmarks, and Axl actually makes an effort with a diverse vocal take. It's no surprise that it garnered such positive reviews.

The other material is respectable. It maintains a consistent level of quality and avoids the high peaks and low valleys of the Illusions records, but it is never transcendent. The now much loved "There Was A Time" remained a mid-carder until it had received a dash of Colonel Sanders' secret spices. It's unclear if Beavan was present for those proceedings but I think it's clear that each successive version of the song only became more convoluted, i.e. the near incomprehensible chorus.

Yet, "Prostitute" manages to fire on all cylinders, a perfect balance of old and new Guns N' Roses sound, and comes across as effortless. A perfect closer to your 2000 Intentions album.

#915 Re: GN'R Downloads » [FLAC] Dawn of the Dead » 451 weeks ago

Nice job!

Old band isn't my cup of juice but I'm sure a lot of people will dig this.

#917 Re: The Sunset Strip » The Video Game Console Thread » 451 weeks ago

I'm not much of a gamer these days but Super Mario Odyssey looks great for the upcoming Nintendo Switch.

#918 Re: Guns N' Roses » Dissecting Chinese Democracy: Track 14 - Prostitute » 452 weeks ago

I'll do a write-up on "Prostitute" when the mood strikes. I really like the song. Great closer.

AtariLegend wrote:

I'm still convinced this is real.

It is, from the record company side of things.

polluxlm wrote:

I wonder why they changed the name of The Blues. Street of Dreams sound so cheesy in comparison.

As a refresher:

Axl Rose wrote:

The Blues was my first working title and I was never comfortable with it in the sense that I felt that should be used with a bluesier based song. And here in Hollywood with the walk of fame etc I had always seen that imagery in my head when I think of it. I also like the idea of the song having in affect two titles.

I understand that "stardust on my feet" are lyrics to the song but given the working title "Stardust" I wondered if this had some significance to the Stardust Ballroom in Hollywood and possibly if it was about or inspired at all by Monique which was a similar time period.

#919 Re: Guns N' Roses » Dissecting Chinese Democracy: Track 5 - If The World » 452 weeks ago

This is one of my favorite songs on the album.

The great Stanley Kubrick once said that when everything is epic, nothing is. Axl Rose would've done well to heed his words of wisdom, as most of the songs on Chinese Democracy are packed to the gills with bombast and self-seriousness. While the album is overwhelming when taken collectively, songs like the sublime "Sorry" and underrated "If The World" provide a much needed reprieve.

There have been countless articles written praising the work of the enigmatic Buckethead and many others extolling the virtues of the under-appreciated Robin Finck, but little has been written about keyboardist Chris Pitman. Say what you will of his personage, his two main contributions to the album, "Madagascar" and "If The World", both written with Rose, are two compelling arguments for his songwriting ability and do well to complement the reclusive orange-haired one.

The song opens with sweeping flamenco guitar ripped from the "Double Talkin' Jive" outro before a funky groove and light synth line kicks things off proper. It's as if a hipster band set in The Jetsons universe was doing a theme song for a blaxploitation James Bond film featuring Shaft. It's Pitman's work in combination with a hip-hop inspired drum beat that shines here, culminating in a soulful and piercing guitar solo by Buckethead. Rose signs a high-pitched wail overtop the band as if he were a spurned lounge singer pouring his heart out sometime before last call.

The aforementioned combination of Rose and Pitman is an underrated one and makes this commenter wonder if there are more goodies stashed in a vault somewhere in California. Pitman's efforts were regrettably scaled back on the finished version of the album (see: the Catcher In The Rye bridge in the pre-Bumblefoot version) however his psychedelic, alt rock sensibilities are present throughout. Here and on "Madagascar", he builds a convincing soundscape with little more than a couple of extended notes on his keyboard. His work on the 1997 Lusk album "Free Mars" are further examples of his ability to write engaging and diverse music and helps one see why he and Rose were able to get on so well throughout his near 20 year tenure in the band.

It's a Herculean effort keeping track of the who's and why-for's on this monstrosity of an album but it's worth noting that Finck and crew do a good job of adding little flourishes throughout the five minute run time without distracting from the proceedings. It's a glimpse into the brilliance of the 1997-1999 band and further evidence of the "Zeppelin, Nine Inch Nails and Pink Floyd" sound Axl was going for early on. It's also one of the few hip-hop inspired Guns N' Roses songs penned by Rose, the universally loved "Better" being the other.

Extended listening:

#920 Re: Guns N' Roses » Chinese Whispers - The Secret History of the New Studio Album » 452 weeks ago

Axl's appearance in Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas has always seemed strange to me.

Rockstar Games released the game in October 2004. They typically record the Radio DJ's late on in the process after the game is near finished and they've secured the rights to the songs used in the soundtrack. At earliest, I'd say they'd do this around July 2004.

Even if Chinese Democracy were released, none of it would be promoted in the game, and Axl's appearance would either be just for fun or re-establishing him and Jungle to a new audience. He was spending a lot of time in NYC during this period, so it's possible he met the Houser brothers there, and it snowballed, but one wonders how exactly it came to pass.

Contraband came out in June 2004. If Axl got feet about releasing CD because of that, he did so after September 2004 and long after he had already appeared as DJ.

Tommy wrote:

But also I wanted to hear the things I hadn't heard yet. Some of the stuff had been done a while ago and hadn't changed much; I didn't really bother with that.

I wonder what Tommy was referring to here as most of what we've heard really hasn't changed much.

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