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#981 Re: Guns N' Roses » Ideal Setlist Part 1: Don't Cry vs. Patience » 473 weeks ago

bigbri wrote:

Has Don't Damn Me ever been played live? It popped up on my playlist this morning, and man it kicks ten tons of ass!

"It was never played because there was too many words" -Slash

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#982 Re: The Garden » The Randomness Thread » 473 weeks ago

My mood and general ennui could only be described as 2002 Axl-esque.

#983 Re: Guns N' Roses » Tim Palmer's two days on CD » 473 weeks ago

apex-twin wrote:

Axl was asking up the label about this in Feb 2004 (or earlier) is a curious notion, btw. That's Geffen had decided to 'fuck this headache' and suspended funding. Merck would later acknowledge the label bothered little with Guns prior to a contract re-negotiation and a mastered album. They equally failed to do much afterwards - on the other hand, the choice of singles was poor and Axl failed to do any videos or pre-release promo.

I can't remember the exact details and my Google abilities are failing me, but I remember Axl mentioning something about the label failing to commission the proper funds for videos or something to that effect. Perhaps I am misremembering.

apex-twin wrote:

I would guess new music for next summer, somehow.  They need to feed the machine to keep touring.

You're not wrong but the tour would end roughly at summer. It's possible that a remastered AFD for the 30th Anniversary doesn't happen but assuming it does, the timing doesn't make sense for a new album. They would either start the tour without new music being heard or a title being announced and them debuting it during said tour. Also strange.

#984 Re: Guns N' Roses » Tim Palmer's two days on CD » 473 weeks ago

monkeychow wrote:

But that's about breaking new acts. This is a marque brand act in GNR. World famous name.

I agree with you in general but what comes down from the top isn't always logical or even sensible.

The label knows that a new Greatest Hits compilation will sell. They know a remastered AFD will sell. Releasing new music in the next year or so undercuts their profits in those two endeavors.

My guess is Axl would tell them to go fuck themselves if they told him to work with a certain producer and/or re-record CD II. I could be wrong but we're talking about a guy who physically ran over a bunch of CDs that the label sent him in the early 00s. They've made no bones about telling him to amend his vision or go back to formula in the past, why change now, especially after CD was a failure in many respects?

I'd love to be wrong but given both the labels and Axl's track record, I doubt it.

#986 Re: Guns N' Roses » Tim Palmer's two days on CD » 473 weeks ago

I can't imagine being Buckethead or Robin.

Imagine slaving away for a half decade and then having your efforts locked away in a vault. Not only are the fans unable to appreciate them but you're unable to profit directly or indirectly from their release. And according to Robin his favorite moments was on material that didn't even make CD. What a frustrating clusterfuck.

I find it borderline heroic he took the stage with Axl in 2012.

James Lofton wrote:

I still think we're getting a compilation just in time for the holidays.

Same. The Best Of before holiday, AFD30 next year, and vague rumors about a new album before their 2018 US tour to stoke the fires, and nothing being released. Book it!

#987 Re: Guns N' Roses » Tim Palmer's two days on CD » 473 weeks ago

monkeychow wrote:

Why would that be the case though? Why wouldn't any label want to release an album with Axl and Slash?

From the China Exchange interview:

Axl Rose wrote:

“The heads of the music industry realize that for their business, why deal with a band? All they need is a star and a producer. They don’t even care who writes what or what it sounds like. They could be a genuine fan of music, say, the music company president, owner, whatever. But when it comes to their business, it doesn’t have anything to do with that.

It just has to do with what’s going to be the easiest, what’s going to make the most money, and make the company and the shareholders happy and stuff like that. I can respect that … but as an artist and a musician and working with bands, it doesn’t help me at all, and i don’t think that it helps music. It doesn’t help the bands become self-sufficient and successful, they’ve got to work a lot harder because the labels are more worried about themselves making money.”

Why risk losing money on new music when there is a cash cow ready to have it's tits milked off?

#988 Re: Guns N' Roses » Tim Palmer's two days on CD » 473 weeks ago

misterID wrote:

Wow, I didn't get that impression at all.

Which part? I'm guessing the second?

I don't think it was malicious on Axl's part but he also said that the whole thing could explode. He said he wants to release it either way. So if it doesn't work out okay, release it, if it does and Slash wants to play on it, cool. It was a very Switzerland answer.

#989 Re: Guns N' Roses » Tim Palmer's two days on CD » 473 weeks ago

killingvector wrote:

I am not expecting nor believe we will get another album from this group.

Same. Axl said everything he needed to say at the China Exchange.

If you listened closely, he said that the record company is still a barrier to releasing new music. I also think his comments about Slash playing on new material could be fairly interpreted as "if this reunion doesn't work out, I have that music saved up for a rainy day".

killingvector wrote:

If Izzy returns in a writing capacity, everything changes.

I don't think that will ever happen.

The vibe I get is Izzy doesn't like "working for" Axl. He's not going to put up with any of his bullshit.

I also think that Izzy has much of a creative ego as Slash or Axl.

#990 Re: Guns N' Roses » Tim Palmer's two days on CD » 473 weeks ago

johndivney wrote:

Dodged a bullet. U2 suck. ATYCLB is horrible, full of typical vacuous phony bullshit.

It surely would've been better than Caram and Axl mixing it.

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